Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bitchslapping
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This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was DELETE, and make a redirect. I'm confused about the transwikim of bitch-slap since the article is still present here in all its dubious glory. The redirect can be removed if the target is later. -Splashtalk 23:29, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Bitchslapping
slang dicdef. Delete, transwiki to wiktionary.—encephalonέγκέφαλος 17:42:56, 2005-09-09 (UTC)
- redirect to much better existing article bitch-slap. — brighterorange (talk) 18:20, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
- comment - I'll agree bitch-slap is the better article, but aren't they both just DicDefs? Why do we even have a category "slang" when WP:NOT a dictionary? --Outlander 18:43, September 9, 2005 (UTC)
- My thoughts precisely. I caught this on RC patrol and tagged it. I've been trying to find a clear Wiktionary policy on slang, but have been unsuccessful. There appear to accept protologisms, however, so they clearly must accept slang. I think both bitchslapping and bitch-slap (is the hyphen necessary?) should be deleted and moved to Wiktionary (the slang category on Wiktionary seems much better done, but surprisingly lacks entries on both the above). They certainly should not stay here, since there is a clear rule against that in a fundamental WP law (WP:NOT). A slang cat on WP may be useful to place articles on the development of slang in various languages; clearly, however, it is being misused.—encephalonέγκέφαλος 18:57:12, 2005-09-09 (UTC)
- protologisms (usually called Neologisms here) are usually tagged and AfD'd. There are several on the AfD list today. But slang seems to be a grey area, especially if a fairly large article is written with history. I can see a category for types of slang and their origins, such as Cockney Rhyming slang, but listing individual slang terms seems unencyclopedic. I would opt for transwiki to Wictionary, perhaps with a link. --Outlander 20:29, September 9, 2005 (UTC)
- Wiktionary takes slang words, just as other dictionaries do, subject to its normal criteria for inclusion. Wiktionary does not accept protologisms, as is clearly stated in the criteria for inclusion. Yes, Category:Slang is somewhat mis-used. Uncle G 23:58:54, 2005-09-09 (UTC)
- My thoughts precisely. I caught this on RC patrol and tagged it. I've been trying to find a clear Wiktionary policy on slang, but have been unsuccessful. There appear to accept protologisms, however, so they clearly must accept slang. I think both bitchslapping and bitch-slap (is the hyphen necessary?) should be deleted and moved to Wiktionary (the slang category on Wiktionary seems much better done, but surprisingly lacks entries on both the above). They certainly should not stay here, since there is a clear rule against that in a fundamental WP law (WP:NOT). A slang cat on WP may be useful to place articles on the development of slang in various languages; clearly, however, it is being misused.—encephalonέγκέφαλος 18:57:12, 2005-09-09 (UTC)
- Delete, useless dictdef. I'm going to transwiki bitch-slap, though; it's genuine slang, not a protologism. Note numerous Google and Google Print hits. —Cryptic (talk) 02:12, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
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- Thanks Cryptic; kind of you. Uncle G, that's an important point abour protologisms in wiktionary. That link was useful to me, thank you very much for providing it. I'm a novice at wiktionary policies, and am just learning enough about it to know when it might be appropriate to move things over there, and when not. Best wishes—encephalonέγκέφαλος 06:46:42, 2005-09-10 (UTC)
- Delete and redirect. -Sean Curtin 19:37, September 11, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete - with bitch-slap transwikied to Wikipedia, Bitchslapping is now redundant ---Outlander 14:12, September 12, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, bitch-slap creator, and redirect per brighterorange until that article is itself deleted. (The second part was joking.) Real slang, not neologism, but still a dicdef. Barno 19:45, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
- And I hate to call this an encyclopedic reference, but I recommend the game "Lunch Money", from Cheapass Games and published several years ago, as having a "Bitch-Slap" card demonstrating this word's use in its cultural context. Barno 19:47, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.