Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Birinci Lig 2005-06

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep, not enough consensus to merge but that option can be discussed on the talk page. Arkyan • (talk) 20:15, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Birinci Lig 2005-06

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It is about a very low level league (at level of Cyprus 3rd division) of a non-recognized country. I think if it is going to be in wikipedia, it is not important to have about every season of that weak league.

user:KRBN 13:14, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Keep If most of the teams are deemed notable, then I think league results are ok. Perhaps try deleting the teams first? aLii 10:36, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Keep - it's a de facto national league. I can understand POV issues when referring to various TRNC articles, but this one appears fine to me. - fchd 11:42, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Keep de facto nation top league. Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus differ from Sealand. Matthew_hk tc 11:58, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - it's a national top flight league. Yes, TRNC's unrecognised, but so are Taiwan, Palestine & Kosovo - for all practical purposes, it's a real country. - iridescenti (talk to me!) 17:23, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong keep, as above, it is the top flight league in Northern Cyprus. ♦Tangerines BFC ♦·Talk 20:10, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment. I created this page, so I won't put any kind of opinion in bold at the start. What I will say, is that I wouldn't lose sleep over it being deleted, but I don't see why it should be. As said above, it is a de facto national league. Cream147 Shout at me for doing wrong 20:45, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment. Dear Cream, do u care so much about Turkish Cypriot League? Is it important to have about every year? May be yes, there must be an information about their league as general to know that such football exist, however except the fact that the level is extremely weak (Cyprus Second Division is better). Of course user:Iridescenti's examples are very irrelevant, since Palestine and Taiwan are recognized by FIFA. Just imagine, if we allow every season of Turkish Cypriot competitions, since 1955 when began existing, all the cups, and if we allow all the competitions of 200 countries of FIFA and many others which are not recognized, we are talking for many thousand articles about season, most of them by very weak regions!!!!!

>User:KRBN 00:45, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

  • Comment With respect, it appears to be you that cares more about the league, and your wish that it is removed from wikipedia. Cream147 said, and I quote, "I won't put any kind of opinion in bold at the start", and "I wouldn't lose sleep over it being deleted". There are local, regional leagues on wikipedia that are far less notable than this league which is after all a National league. And in my opinion there is no need for this league to be removed. As for other leagues, try these which are not affiliated to FIFA - Coca Cola GM Greenland Football league. Also the Gibraltar Football Association, and perhaps most relevant to the Turkish Cypriot situation in that they are not from an officially recognized country Tibet national football team. Whilst I believe that the Birinci Lig should retain a presence on wikipedia, it might be the best way forward, as alluded to in the original comment, to change the page title to Birinci Lig with details of each season on that one page only. ♦Tangerines BFC ♦·Talk 22:00, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I agree with you Tangerines. I am not opposing to have an article such as Birinci Lig. My problem- and that's why i commented the level and the fact that is not recognized country- is to have an article of every season. I didn't support the remove of article Birinci Lig but Birinci Lig 2005-06. Also Gibraltar and Greenland have no articles for every season.

User:KRBN 02:02, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

  • CommentAgreed. To be honest I did completely miss the article, Birinci Lig, so my apologies. Could the article about the 2005-06 season be merged into the main article on the league?♦Tangerines BFC ♦·Talk 18:25, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment That's why I put it under deletion. Yes, I believe it must be merge to the article Birinci Lig. User:KRBN 11:16, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I'd be fine with merging the seasons into a single article - just don't think the info should be deleted altogether. - iridescenti (talk to me!) 21:15, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I think that would be by far the best option, rather than deleting the information. ♦Tangerines BFC ♦·Talk 21:56, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I agree with the general feel I'm getting from this discussion. I think that it would be fine to merge it. Cream147 Shout at me for doing wrong 18:15, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Disagree - all other national leagues have a seperate page for each season, with the final league table etc. This one, even though it is for a generally unrecognised state, should have as well. - fchd 18:21, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
I notice someone has deleted this season's Birinci Lig...that was once here as well. Is there anyway to resurface it, so we can add it to this merge we plan to do? Cream147 Shout at me for doing wrong 18:17, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep - Agree with User:Iridescenti and User:Tangerines. CanbekEsen 22:03, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.