Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill Mason (jewel thief)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. - Bobet 11:12, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bill Mason (jewel thief)

Self-proclaimed "master" thief, writing his autobiography without proving/substantiating his claims (see CNN link in article). Moreover, despite his autobio, still non-notable. Delete as per WP:NN. -- P199 16:50, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

You all should realize that writing your own bio and getting a bit of publicity doesn't make one notable (that's just marketing). Anyone can write their own bio and make all kinds of wonderful claims. WP should not be the medium to propagate such unsubstantiated works. -- P199 14:00, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Comment - on the contrary. We are not here to prove what others say, only to *state* what they say. If he is a notable loon who claims to have stolen millions, that is notable in and of itself, for his being a notable loon. So your argument fails. If he is a non-notable loon then he fails notability, but this guy doesn't. Wjhonson 17:27, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia has thousands of articles about various action figures. I think an article for a guy who claims to be a master jewel thief, whether true or not, deserves his own page. The fact that he is an author and released this book is more than enough reason to have his own page. Did you write a book?

  • Do Not Delete, nn-bio. --jamesishere 6:57, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, published author interviewed by CNN. Kappa 02:45, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Do Not Delete, Also, throughout the autobiography are scans of various newpaper clippings that back up what he says (including himself on the front page with his socialite girlfriend) --jamesishere 2:28, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Thieving $35 million worth of jewels sounds pretty damn notable to me. RFerreira 21:22, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per primary sources policy, intertwined with WP:V. Daniel.Bryant 04:31, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
    • CNN is not a primary source. Kappa 05:23, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Petros471 13:42, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, a CNN interview does not confer notability. User:Angr 14:50, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep - his book "Confessions of a Master Jewel Thief" gets twelve.... thousand... hits on google. That's pretty notable. Wjhonson 18:47, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Being interviewed by mainstream media, and being the subject of a lot of media attention for a commited crime indicates or creates notability. Han-Kwang 19:39, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep. As noted by Wjhonson, the book seems notable enough at least, so even if the article is short and ends up basically referring to the book, there's no shame in short articles. SnowFire 22:19, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep per Han-Kwang, we have articles on lots of suspected criminals, $35 million in jewels is a sufficiently notable haul. Carlossuarez46 20:36, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep per Han-Kwang and, RFerreira, Wjhonson, et cetera. Yamaguchi先生 00:48, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep per the above. --Myles Long 12:31, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong keep this seems more than the average burglar - this guy's book has made him pretty noteable. - Blood red sandman 13:08, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.