Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill Dunlap
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep as disambiguation page, and keep William Dunlap. Address William Dunlap (artist) and Bill Dunlap (illustrator) when and if the need arises. Tyrenius 01:32, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Bill Dunlap
Notability not established or sourced per WP:BIO. RJASE1 Talk 01:13, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- Delete It just doesn't look right. Notability is a problem. YechielMan 01:21, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- Keep but... It looks there are 3 (count 'em, 3) William/Bill Dunlaps who are/were painters:
- William Dunlap (1766-1839) pretty notable both for his work in theater and as an artist; studied under Benjamin West, with at least one book published in the 20th century on his art, his portrait of George Washington is owned by the U.S. Sentate
- Bill/William Dunlap (1944-) of the east coast, a modestly notable contemporary artist who should I think have an article and whose bio is the 2nd half of Bill Dunlap at the moment. There's at least one book about him (see text of http://www.nga.gov/press/2007/bookcase.shtm ) and he's had works in significant museums. He appears to use both "Bill" and "William" professionally.
- Bill Dunlap (? -) of the west coast, whose bio is the first half of Bill Dunlap and who seems to be user User:Bill Dunlap. Much less notable than the first two, I don't see adequate sources (yet) for Wikipedia, though the guy seems legitimately "up-and-coming".
- Unfortunately, the 3rd guy was the original subject of Bill Dunlap, an anon IP replaced the original content with a bio of the 2nd guy, and then the Bill Dunlap user pulled the original content from history, pasted it into the top and started asking more experienced editors to "fix" things with disambiguation (see Wikipedia:Editor_assistance/Requests#Entry:_Bill_Dunlap if you're curious). I defer to more experienced editors about what exactly should be done from here. Studerby 02:47, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- Split into a disambiguation page per above. Don't bother including the vanispamcruftisement. MER-C 12:58, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- Comment One of the three painting Bill Dunlaps here, one of the two who aren't dead yet. (for id purposes, my web site is here: http://www.billdunlap.com ) I originally found a bio of myself on here a year or so ago. I didn't put it there. I believe it may have been posted by someone at Hoard Magazine. I am happy to admit I may not be worthy of inclusion here. At this point I find the whole thing a bit embarrassing. I initiated this discussion simply because of the unprofessional way my entry was deleted and replaced with another person's entry. There were also the strange editorial comments left by the person who deleted the entry. They made mention of "drummers" and "bands" (which have nothing to do with the entry and left no name). At this point I don't mind if the whole entry is deleted. However, there really should be an entry for William Dunlap (1766-1839). He was a somewhat important painter, one of America's earliest playwrights, and documented the growth of art and design in early America in several books which are still important historical documents today. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bill Dunlap (talk • contribs)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 17:30, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 17:31, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- Split as follows: 1) William Dunlap is fine as it is, and I think he takes precedence for being there first. 2) Modern William Dunlap (artist) [1] 3) Modern Bill Dunlap (illustrator) [2]. Then handle deletion/notability arguments separately. Gordonofcartoon 18:59, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- Delete, see below Split per the fact that there are several Bill Dunlaps, and the article's prose needs to be improved A LOT. I see no problem with a second AFD if the prose is not fixed (I'll try...) W1k13rh3nry 20:56, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:Nobility and WP:COI because it is quite clear (looking at the history) that its an autobio. W1k13rh3nry 21:01, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- Split into Disambiguation page, since at least one Bill Dunlap is a notable artist.--Kylohk 16:17, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
- Update: I've replaced the article with a dab page. John Vandenberg 04:05, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
