Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill Clinton's sex scandals

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was selectively merged to Bill Clinton#Sexual misconduct allegations (i.e., one sentence about the women not yet mentioned there). Sandstein (talk) 19:15, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bill Clinton's sex scandals

Seems to me like a POV fork, created earlier this month. Clinton's sex scandals are covered in exhausting detail in several other places. Each of the women listed here has their own article which covers these issues in depth. If this is kept, all those should be merged and redirected here. I don't see a clear rationale for having yet another layer of coverage of the same issues, but I see real potential for maintenance and BLP nightmares. AllanBColson (talk) 14:18, 25 March 2008 (UTC)]

• Comment. You may be right. It may yet be worthwhile, though, to tell us what you think it is a POV fork of. I would indeed be surprised to learn that this is the first time an article has been made on the subject.

  Lord knows, there are reams of coverage and commentary about Bill Clinton's amours. Still, Clinton is remembered for other things besides them, and as such having an extensive listing in his article in chief may well be giving undue weight to this aspect of his Place in History. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 14:31, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

  • Bill Clinton#Sexual misconduct allegations. That describes the basic issue, and provides links to the main articles that give details. Obviously, there is also fairly extensive discussion in the various article about the Lewinsky affair. The question is not whether this should be covered, or even undue weight. It's already covered, appropriately, and extensively so, in the main articles provided for each woman. The real problem here is that this adds no information to the encylopedia; that's why it's a fork. The POV isn't too hard to pick up from the history. AllanBColson (talk) 14:47, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

• Merge it with Bill Clinton under [[1]]and Re-Direct this page to [[2]] , i don't find a reason for a separate article with this title , all infos are available quite enough if more is available then we may add it to the same . this will give the opportunity for users to get the best out of wiki .--@ the $un$hine . (talk) 14:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
• Merge per @ the $un$hine's diffs. Also not notable as its own article. ArcAngel (talk) 16:22, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
• Merge with Bill Clinton#Sexual misconduct allegations, to avoid duplicating existing information. New information in this article, if any, about specific women should be moved to the articles about the specific women. I don't think the Sexual misconduct allegations section needs to be significantly longer than it currently is, but it should at least have links to the three women (Gracen, Perdue and Browning) that this article lists, but aren't currently in the Sexual misconduct allegations section. Red Act (talk) 21:30, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep Bill Clinton unlike any other Human being's sex scandals lead to his impreachment and had a global impact on politics.Hence feel we can keep it.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 05:21, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
  • • well i think u havent visited this [[3]] hope laer u wont expect to hav another page with same infos .

• • Impeachment of Bill Clinton, Lewinsky scandal, Bill_Clinton#Sexual_misconduct_allegations, I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Monica_Lewinsky#Scandal, Troopergate, Paula Jones, Gennifer Flowers, Kathleen Willey, Juanita Broaddrick, Elizabeth Ward Gracen .... I believe we've got it covered. Exactly how many articles on Clinton's penis do you think we need? 07:01, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
    • Comment What, no article on The Clenis, Clinton's left testicle and Clinton's right testicle? Surely it is insufficient to merely have separate articles on every non-notable putative girl friend or assault victim, given the special obsession with his real or imagined sex life. Edison (talk) 19:34, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
• Smerge (selectively merge) with Bill Clinton#Sexual misconduct allegations. Edison (talk) 19:37, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

• merge this is the only solution , keeping this article as it is will duplicate Bill Clinton#Sexual misconduct allegations , if a keep is decided then merge the Bill Clinton#Sexual misconduct allegations with this one and place something like Main article: Bill Clinton#Sexual misconduct allegations so that we may give people a chance to expand them , but i wonder weather an expansion is really necessary since every single person involved in this topic have their own full article where these expansion could be done , we dont need to have two articles for a same information , if we do then where are we taking our users ?? so my recommendations are to just merge and redirect this page to Bill Clinton#Sexual misconduct allegations and close this AFD .--@ the $un$hine . (talk) 15:30, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.