Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bijokko Yume Monogatari

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete without prejudice. Though several people looked for sources, no independent reliable sources have been found. If they do turn up, there is no prejudice against recreation. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 12:49, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

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This article is not notable enough to qualify for an article in wikipedia. See WP:NN. The only way to show that this is notable would be to find reliable third party sources that talk about this game. I welcome someone to do so, because the only mentions I can find of this game are on a few unreliable lists on the web. Randomran (talk) 23:32, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

  • Contested Speedy Delete? I tried to speedy delete this, but someone contested it. Now there's nobody here with any strong opinion one way or the other. Why tie this up in bureaucracy? This is clearly non-notable and should be deleted. Randomran (talk) 17:04, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment Are the "only mentions" you found online sources? According to the article, the game is old, so we might have to dig into off-line sources like old Japanese magazines. That the notability is not established seems to be a good ground for the deletion, though. -- Taku (talk) 01:33, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm afraid I wouldn't have the faintest idea where to find any resources on this except online. But based on the online research, this fails a basic notability test. Randomran (talk) 06:18, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment while there are a few more online hits for 美女っ子夢物語 (google count ~= 40), none of them lend a great deal towards establishing notability. Even the Japanese wikipedia article on the strip-mahjong video game genre (yes, there is such a thing) ja:脱衣麻雀 does not mention this particular game anywhere that I could see. Nichibutsu's home page lists it, and MAME ROMs prove that the game existed as well, but I don't see this article being expanded from online sources. Neier (talk) 13:35, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Would it be out of line to convert this article into one about the genre, in that case? Just a thought. —Quasirandom (talk) 14:32, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment There is an article about the genre called computer mahjong which is in pretty rough shape as is. I can't even see how this game is notable enough to warrant a mention in an article, let alone its own article. I tried to PROD this, but someone contested it. So let's wait and see if someone can establish any level of notability. Randomran (talk) 16:10, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete: Obscure game that fails WP:N, never mind WP:V.  RGTraynor  15:37, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Not notable for the English WP. Lara❤Love 16:45, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep for the moment (the things you find out editing wikipedia). Looking through google entries the subject matter looks legitimate, and thus not a hoax. I like to think that wikipedia can be better than the internet as such and thus some attempt at sourcing beyond sitting on one's proverbial and typing into google. I recommend keep as a default option at present due to the likelihood of sources - if it were avaiable commercially then it will have been notable. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:56, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.