Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bernhardt coat of arms

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. W.marsh 18:28, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bernhardt coat of arms

I fon't know about this one. Page was created by USer:Gustavobernhardt, so a personal interest piece. Article gives no explanation of how the coat of arms was awarded or designed. I have been unable to find any information elsewhere in Wikipedia or though Google etc. It is possible that this is a historic coat of arms; it is equally possible it was bought from any of a myriad of artists and companies that will give you a design for a fee. In the absence of any sources, I recommend deletion. Emeraude 12:38, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Delete, non-notable, vanity. yandman 12:56, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete unless sourced; it should be simple enough to document an actual coat of arms. ergot 15:26, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

• Comment. Well, there is something vaguely similar here, awarded in the UK in 1997 (article says these arms are German). There is something armorially identical (but a quite different image) here; unfortunately, I can't find any information about it beyond the image itself. The image in the article looks like it was scanned from an old book; if this is in fact the case, it would be to the article's credit. (If nothing less, the image does not look like something that came from one of those heraldry "bucket shops".) I'm going to have to think about this one. I definately don't like the idea of keeping something unverifiable, but I don't like the idea of deleting what could well be a legitimately granted coat of arms, either. Does anyone have any books on German heraldry? ergot 00:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, NN vanity. There's no information even who the Bernhardt's are. WP doesn't have CoA articles for old noble families and likely won't have. Pavel Vozenilek 00:06, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Comment Actually, we have material for a great part of the Polish nobility, and we probably have for a few British families as well (unfortunately, the heraldic material is still very underdeveloped). Interestingly, we at WP:HV have never discussed this scenario, but I don't think this family is particularly notable. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of articles about noble coats of arms completely, provided the holder (and/or the arms) was famous enough. No vote, but it might be an idea to ask WP:HV if anybody knows more about this one. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 22:54, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete (also Image:Bernhardtcoatofarms1.jpg) unless sourced. Smacks of vaniheraldry. ~ trialsanderrors 00:17, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

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