Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Benito Papasón

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The result was Delete, as a hoax --Stephen 23:37, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Benito Papasón

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Google doesn't seem to give any references to either Benito Papasón or Benito Papazón that are not wikiclones or refer to this page. The archive on La Jornada (which is used as a reference) doesn't give any result either. In The Spanish Wiki this article was removed as a hoax and explains it's a pun. Also I recall having seen this article earlier named Benito Papazón. Apparently it been deleted but I find no discussion, what happened?. Unless anyone can give proof Papasón existed I say we should delete this page.

Oh, and someone who speaks Italian please also inform the Italian Wiki so they can remove their article on Papasón as well. Mixcoatl (talk) 00:17, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

• • If it helps you, the following happened to Benito Papazón: It was tagged by User:SatyrTN with: {{db-reason|es:Benito Papazón was speedily deleted. Evidently, "Benito Carmelo Papazón" is a play on words to mean "Ven y tócamelo [el pene], Papazón", which translates roughly to "Come and play with my d***, big daddy". See my talk page for verification.}} It was subsequently speedied under CSD G3. Punkmorten (talk) 09:21, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

• Rewrite and rename, taking information from es:Baile de los cuarenta y uno? Aille (talk) 01:02, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep and rename, per above reasoning.JJJ999 (talk) 10:31, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment: Of course an article on the Baile de los cuarenta y uno perfectly legitimate, but should we really keep this article as a redirect? It's a joke name. Mixcoatl (talk) 12:48, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
• Delete: Along with Biggus Dickus, Hugh Jass, Heywood Jablome, and all the other nonsense. Utgard Loki (talk) 13:08, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep - I originally written the article in 2005. Recently I was rechecking the original source "Diccionario Biografico y de Historia de Mexico" in the library and noticed I had misspelled the name in my notes originally as Papazon rather than Papasón. When I tried to correct the WP article I found it had been deleted, so I recreated it using the correct spelling. Now that it has been corrected it should stay. I realize the name sounds like a joke name, which is what captured my eye in the first place. The article by Monsivais was used as a secondary source for information about the "Dance of the 41". Just because you cannot find something in Google, it does not mean that there are no reference materials out there that contain information. Pretzelogic2 (talk) 18:08, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment is it possible that your source, the "Diccionario Biografico y de Historia de Mexico" created that entry to catch copyviolators unawares? Mapmakers routinely add a non-existent small town to every map to that end. Blast Ulna (talk) 23:48, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
    • I guess there's no way to tell. The book is from 1964, and it is really quite humorless and dry, with lots of little biographies of some even more arcane and obscure people, so I don't think the author would be as clever. Pretzelogic2 (talk) 01:17, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
      • It'd be interesting to see a scan of the article from the Diccionario although (copyright) we probably couldn't use it in the article or (WP:NOR) to provide an example of a Nihilartikel. But rewording & renaming the article so that it's about the incident and not the alleged host would take about 3 mins; translating the salient points from the es-wiki article a bit (but not much) longer. As for leaving this title as a redirect: I don't know. First, I want to see his Diccionario entry for myself. Aille (talk) 02:14, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
        • Neat, there's a word for it. Blast Ulna (talk) 03:03, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment I really doubt this is a so-called nihilartikel. I'd be happy to make a photocopy of the original article and then scan it and post it when I next go home, where I can access the book. Until then, it seems like this article is being deleted solely because there's no reference of it on Google and its an unusual name. I think as long as it is sourced, and the source made clear, then it fine. Pretzelogic2 (talk) 03:50, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
• Delete. Seems to be a hoax, per most of the above. We could rewrite the article under a different name. _{WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDEN} ^{that one guy who buried stuff} 09:35, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
• Speedy Delete: Y'all, this is a hoax. Did you read the above? The administrators on es.wikipedia laughed when they were asked. And none of the sources, none of the names, none of it adds up to be even remotely true. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 05:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
• Comment. Dance of the Forty-One created from w/es article. Aille (talk) 16:45, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.