Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Belgian blogosphere (Second nomination)

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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 08:07, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Belgian blogosphere

Belgian blogosphere (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Previously kept no consensus in 2005 (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Belgian Blogosphere), but I don't think this would pass the current notability criteria, and I am not at all sure it should have survived back then either - many of the Keep arguments were along the lines of WP:ILIKEIT and WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. Do we have a reference to say that the Belgian blogosphere is different from the blogosphere generally? Not as such. Do the blogs discussed have articles? Seems not. Is it full of lovely weblinks to blogs? For sure. Do any other articles link here? Nope. I'd say this is a type of article that we used to think might one day become useful, but we've now decided is not as useful as we thought and rather too prone to vanispamcruftisement. Guy (Help!) 10:42, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, no external sources or indications of notability outside the Belgian blogging community itself. Demiurge 10:49, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
• Weak keep, the statistics has sources (be it badly formatted). And since most of those blogs are written in Dutch or French, I don't see lack of notability outside the Belgian blogosphere as valid reason to delete it. Wikipedia is an international project and anything with a national notability in the country of origin is an acceptable subject. That's probably the reason why individual articles on the relevant blogs haven't been created too. Not enough people with the relevant language skills to do it. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:53, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Guy. Eusebeus 13:58, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete do 5 websites = notariety? Me thinkest not. What makes this different from the Welsh Blogosphere (which does need a universal tranlator obscure Red Dwarf joke). It may one day be widespread enough for inclusions, but even with proper translations, I don't think that this is widespread enough now for encyclopedic inclusion. SkierRMH 01:12, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Widespread is subjective. The fact the Dutch language is pretty small makes for few blogs in that language, but that doesn't make it any less important. It's national importance that counts, not if it's important to speakers of English. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:34, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete For Wikipedia, notability exists when multiple independent, reliable sources publish material primarily about the subject of an article. Blogs are not reliable sources by our standards. So I don't see any notability to Wikipedia's standards for this topic. GRBerry 02:40, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

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