Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Belegaer

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (Non admin closure). Qst 21:07, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Belegaer

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Article is written almost entirely from an in-universe point of view, offering only two brief, speculatory, and unreferenced relations between the fiction of Tolkein and the real-life world. There are no references in the article and the entire thing is written as a textbook example of WP:NOT#PLOT. I'd recommend deletion unless someone can find another Wiki site to transwiki this to, however I note that this site doesn't appear to be a proper Wiki and has a copyright notice at the bottom, and this site already has a near-exact copy of this article. Hersfold (t/a/c) 22:45, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Merge to Minor places in Arda. It's currently under AfD too, but it's already been pointed out that there are numerous sources to "satisfy WP:FICTION in spades". A list article is preferred over scores of small articles. Uthanc 07:50, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong keep. The great sea is one of the most important features in Tolkien's world. All the arguments and available references mentioned in the ongoing Tolkien location AfDs could be applied here. The oceanic feaures, such as the Gulf of Lune have been merged to their respective coastal region. They probably could have been merged here as well, and it seems a bit dubious to refer to an entire ocean that features so heavily in the universe of tolkien as a "minor place". IronGargoyle 00:42, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep now, possibly merge somewhere later per our above arguments. Uthanc 18:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - per IronGargoyle above.   jj137 (Talk) 16:05, 31 October 2007 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.