Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beer pong

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. — CharlotteWebb 07:43, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Beer pong

This is virtually a 40+KB article on how to play a drinking game. Not only does the content violate Wikipedia Policy of being an instruction manual, but the article serves no real purpose other than to both glorify and encourage the abuse of alcohol –and more particularly, abuse of it by minors. Delete. Ryecatcher773 20:34, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

• Keep, discussion of game in major media demonstrates notability, as does its co-optation by commercial interests. 43 Google News hits, 902 GNA hits, and good golly, even hits on Google Scholar (though not all are academic papers). The article veers into WP:HOWTO territory, but that's a content problem. As for "abuse of alcohol" and "by minors", see WP:CENSOR. --Dhartung | Talk 21:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep this article is clearly verifiable. Wikipedia is not censored Content disputes are not a reason for deletion.--RWR8189 21:01, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
• Incredibly strong keep Not just is the topic very obviously notable, but the article even includes citations from highly reliable sources. If you have problems with an article, bring it up on the article's talk page. AfD is not the place to discuss changing an article on an extremely well-known, verifiable topic. -- Kicking222 21:20, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
• Strong keep per RWR8189. Subject is verifiable. Content disputes should be handled on the article's talk page. --- RockMFR 21:20, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Possibly edit out the instructions part. Glorifying drinking in itself is IMHO not an opinion for deletion; wikipedia is not censored. Arnoutf 21:58, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep I just looked this up a few days ago. There is lots of unsourced stuff however, which should be tagged or removed as necessary. VegaDark 22:43, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep The article may focus too heavily on how to play the game, but any article about a game is going to have to have some description of how to play. This is not a valid reason for deletion. The nominator's second point is also invalid per WP:CENSOR. GabrielF 04:57, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep like crazy there's no way to say this isn't a notable game. Maybe it's too heavy on instructions, but that's a reason to clean it up (as we've been doing). And I would argue that it's not really instructions, it's more "here's what people do." --AW 07:15, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
• keep & cleanup it reads like a how-to manual but it is very notable. Cornell Rockey 18:35, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep and clean up. Needs better references, and needs removal of junk content, but the topic is clearly notable. The cited sources clearly indicate the notability of this widely played indoor tabletop game. —ptk✰fgs 19:58, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, obviously, per RWR8189 and others above. schi ^talk 23:52, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep & Cleanup. The article is wordier than it needs to be, but it is definitely notable. Lovelac7 07:12, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
• KEEP The argument for its deletion is relative and borders on censorship; by the explanation given one could argue against other, more accepted games or sports, such as Boxing, where the rules are not only clearly expressed here on wiki, but could also be considered glorifying and encouraging violent behavior. Keep it - it is the parents responsibility to raise their own kids. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.28.241.17 (talk • contribs) 16:25, January 9, 2007 (UTC).
• Keep and Cleanup It's notable enough to keep, but it really doesn't need a description of every possible way to throw a ping-pong ball! Other sections could be improved by being condensed, too. --Icarus ^(Hi!) 21:57, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
• Comment Can we close this AFD already? This is unanimously a keep, for good reason --AW 22:01, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
• Comment Damn right it glorifies the abuse - and use - of alcohol. I don't like that. However, for such a useless article, it's very good - had we been talking about Beer Pong variations I would have voted delete. Now, !vote. Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 23:51, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep & Cleanup (it is tagged as such), probably TMI, but no reason to delete. SkierRMH,01:37, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep but cleanup the howto stuff. Seraphimblade 08:54, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Just needs to be cleaned a bit Pbroks13 04:32, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Clearly notable Atchius 05:11, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.