Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beast-man

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The result of the debate was DELETE — Gwalla | Talk 05:41, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Beast-man

Some kind of strange derogatory neologism. Google picks up 23 hits for "beast-man mentality" so I don't think it's worth transwikiing to Wiktionary. And even if this is legitimate, WP:WINAD. Delete. Dmcdevit July 9, 2005 06:09 (UTC)

• Keep Try taking mentality out of quotations in the search. It can be used in other contexts. Over 30,000 hits for "beast man" on Google [1] and over 30,000 hits for "beastman." [2] Cognition 9 July 2005 06:36 (UTC)
• Delete. Wasn't Beast-man one of He-Man's pals? Guess not. Lots of Google results...but they're almost all talking about a comic book character or are otherwise not relevant to this definition. Lyndon LaRouchecruft. — Gwalla | Talk 9 July 2005 06:39 (UTC)
  • Beast-man was one of Skeletor's pals, and so He-Man's enemy. Xoloz 9 July 2005 07:12 (UTC)
  • Try searching "beast man" + LaRouche to narrow it down, in order to see the notably of this term in the movement. Cognition 9 July 2005 07:09 (UTC)
• Delete. Most favorable reading of the article text is that this is an intentionally offensive term used by an obscure political group to refer to people who disagree with them. In other words, it is not suitable for Wikipedia. --FOo 9 July 2005 06:44 (UTC)
• Redirect to He-Man, or other comic stories in which this character might exist. Xoloz 9 July 2005 07:13 (UTC)
  • From He-Man (Section -- Evil Warriors): "Beast-Man, Skeletor's Savage Henchman who can control wild animals" Xoloz 9 July 2005 07:21 (UTC)
• Delete or redirect to He-Man. Postdlf 9 July 2005 07:15 (UTC)
• Comment. [beast-man larouche] brings up 742 hits, indicating that only about one in fifty mentions of the term are LaRouche-related. On the other hand, [beast-man he-man] gets over 15,000 hits, meaning that nearly one in two mentions refer to the superhero. -Willmcw July 9, 2005 07:36 (UTC)
  • Google hits are not an exact indicator of notability. For example, I bet, for example, Paris Hilton gets more Google hits than someone like John Quincy Adams or just about any other American president, even though Ms. Hilton was not the one to make the significant impact on history. A central theme of the LaRouche movement is in the same sense more notable than some comic book character. Cognition 9 July 2005 07:47 (UTC)
    • Actually, no. -Willmcw July 9, 2005 07:51 (UTC)
      • Care to elaborate with anything beyond a snide edit summary? Cognition 9 July 2005 08:31 (UTC)
        • The more apt comparison is that [Paris Hilton] gets over nine million hits, while [Paris Hilton Suffren] gets only 28k. Therefore our article on Paris Hilton is not about the hotel on avenue de Suffren in Paris. -Willmcw July 9, 2005 08:53 (UTC)
          • Okay. So are you saying that we disregard holistic, qualitative assessments of notability and just use number of Google hits as an ironclad rule? Cognition 9 July 2005 09:00 (UTC)
          • To further the point, Pres. Washington is about 2.5 times more popular on the web than Ms. Hilton (thank whatever higher power!) Also, Mr. LaRouche, despite many attempts, has never been elected to high office, so comparing his movement to any American President (even the current very foolish one) probably appears unreasonable to most people who are not a part of the LaRouche movement. Xoloz 9 July 2005 08:55 (UTC)
            • Very foolish indeed... I respect your opinion on the VfD here, but his presidential bids are hardly the only facet of his movement. Cognition 9 July 2005 09:01 (UTC)
              • I agree. Political success, however, is the only achievement which might put Mr. LaRouche on par with J. Q. Adams, et. al. As a philosopher, his following is devoted and notable, but not so extensive that every "term of art" he employs deserves notice, to the exclusion of other uses. Xoloz 9 July 2005 10:09 (UTC)

Delete, assumptuous, non-notable, and I don't recall Aristotle saying anything related to this. -- Natalinasmpf 9 July 2005 11:09 (UTC)

• Delete possibly a dicdef, certainly non-notable. Why are there so many dicdefs today? -Splash 9 July 2005 14:09 (UTC)

Delete. Unnotable academic concept, SqueakBox July 9, 2005 15:38 (UTC)

• Delete or redirect to He-Man. "Philosophy-related article" myass. --Calton | Talk 9 July 2005 15:46 (UTC)
• Delete or redirect as above. -- Cyrius|✎ 9 July 2005 17:24 (UTC)
• Redirect to He-Man. Dcarrano July 9, 2005 17:46 (UTC)
• Keep, I agree with Cognition on this, and it appears to be notable, although it could use some expansion. -mysekurity 22:35, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete (preferably) or redirect to He-Man: WP != soapbox. Wile E. Heresiarch 23:08, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete looks like a dicdef at best, and is only relevant to a particular fringe group. LaRouche Movement could contain list of terms specific to that context, if needed. Cognition above (first "Keep" vote) is creator of article but does not appear to have said so. Friday 17:48, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. The arbcom has ruled that material originating from the LaRouche organization and not supported by other credible sources counts as original research. This article has no chance of becoming encyclopedic. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 18:29, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete or redirect to He-Man. carmeld1 01:08, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete non notable dicdef. JamesBurns 07:07, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, no redirect. Term is pretty generic in fantasy fiction, not just limited to He-Man. -Sean Curtin 06:01, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
• Create disambiguation page. Burschik 10:54, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

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