Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bayview Elementary

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. --Coredesat 05:35, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bayview Elementary

Another article about an elementary school. No assertion of notability. Valrith 22:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. EVula 22:37, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
    Strong Keep per Alansohn's evidence. EVula 03:18, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. TJ Spyke 23:28, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom zephyr2k 23:32, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Fails to assert notability.--Húsönd 00:08, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. No assertion of notability. No credible, third-party sources. -- Satori Son 00:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per Satori. This runs afoul of WP:V in addition to WP:N. JoshuaZ 01:12, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Neutral. With a bit of digging, I found some credible, third-party sources, and enlarged the article a bit. I see that the school (at least as of a few years ago) participates in DARE, the anti-drug program taught by police officers. I had hoped to find an inspection report from the Florida Department of Education, but didn't find one. The school board publishes its attendance policy in English, Kréol, Portuguese and Spanish, so it would be interesting to see statistics on the percentage of students for whom each of these is the first language. It would also be interesting to see percentages of students by ethnic background; sometimes individual schools vary markedly from the statistics for the school district as a whole. I also saw some references to a construction plan, including a comment from a police officer: "Organized, mechanical security is needed at the “parent drop-off” point, as this area is not located at the main entrance. It appears that the first floor restrooms are accessible from outside the building. What security will be provided to prevent an unauthorized person from entering the restrooms, undetected?" All these things suggest that Bayview Elementary is more than "just another elementary school". And, since the school is in Florida, the school presumably engages in high-stakes testing, which creates an atmosphere in which many pupils do not thrive. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 02:50, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
    • Just a quick point about DARE, a look at the DARE article states that 80% of school districts in the US offer it (including the one I was in as a student), so I don't know if that really makes a difference. TJ Spyke 07:00, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge with Fort Lauderdale, Florida or keep. Verifiable, although maybe this information would be better suited for an article on the parent community. JYolkowski // talk 02:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete (or, as an alternative, is it in a school district? Could it be merged with said district?) Akradecki 18:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
    • Keep - based on improvements, but with a couple of suggestions: If you include the principal's name, then what is the mechanism for keeping the article updated when the principal changes? Wouldn't it be better to leave this info out? Secondly, no mention is made of the school district it belongs to (I'm assuming, of course, that it belongs to one)...some mention should be made of this? Anyway, a pat on the back to the editors that undertook to improve this one. Akradecki 03:44, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep It's amazing what can be accomplished when your goal is to make Wikipedia better by working to improve articles. I'm usually leery of elementary school articles, but as modified by my esteemed colleague TruthbringerToronto and I, the article provides several sources in full compliance with WP:V, and makes an explicit claim of notability per WP:N the school was one of 16 schools in Florida recognized with the Blue Ribbon Award of Excellence in Education from the United States Department of Education, the highest honor that an American school can achieve. I would strongly suggest that those individuals who chose to vote to delete the article as it originally stood will reconsider their votes in light of the revisions (and improvements) made to the article. Alansohn 03:12, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment Good find. I've changed my vote accordingly. EVula 03:18, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, non-notable school. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. —ptk✰fgs 00:21, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep per recent edits. Seems notable enough now. - Lex 04:52, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, perfectly good article. Kappa 06:13, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Perfectly good article, meets the proposed WP:SCHOOLS, no compelling reason to delete has been made. Silensor 06:35, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep per Alahnsohn.  ALKIVAR™ ☢ 07:13, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, meets all content policies. The closer should be aware of the large changes that have taken place in the article since it was nominated. Christopher Parham (talk) 03:38, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.