Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battlefield 3 (2nd nomination)

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The result was Delete, per WP:CRYSTAL. Rjd0060 (talk) 23:44, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Battlefield 3

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Violates WP:CRYSTAL (again). Although a PDF-file has supposedly been leaked, that both the article's sources use, the article is still based on rumors and has no place on Wikipedia. I also have reasons to believe that some of the facts in this PDF are actually about Battlefield Heroes (which was neither official at the time of the "leak"), and not this game. The article can be re-created when the game becomes officially announced. SBIT (talk) 20:12, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

• Delete - both sources quoted use the same single primary source. In a sense, this means that they are basically based on a single source, so that in essence the citations are the same. That the source they use is not officially confirmed ("EA remains tight-lipped" from the primary source here) means that the primary source was not reliable, so the secondary sources are also not reliable. Thus the sources fail WP:V and the article as a whole fails per WP:CRYSTAL Fritzpoll (talk) 20:27, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
• Delete, the same opinion as Fritzpoll. --MisterWiki talking! :-D - 20:37, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

• Delete, hardly reliable with only 2 sources, and an official press statement has yet to be made.--EclipseSSD (talk) 22:55, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been added to the list of video game deletions. Someoneanother 10:42, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
• Weak delete and re-create when necessary. The "leaked" PDF said there would be an announcement in January 2008 and there wasn't one as far as I know. I said delete before, but since then Tim Edwards of PC Gamer magazine[1] has written about it. An article on this topic could cite him but I think it would be best if we wait. --Pixelface (talk) 04:15, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

That article is one of the two sources of Battlefield 3, and it seems to use the same PDF. Again, I believe that some of the information in this PDF (such as the announcement date, that's clearly been passed now) is actually information about Battlefield Heroes and not BF3. Hence the information in that article is not reliable. SBIT (talk) 12:45, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

• Delete, Why can't people wait when EA Games announces the game?. So far there is hardly any reliable sources. --SkyWalker (talk) 13:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
• Delete, sources are formed from speculation. Fin©™ 23:22, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

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