Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Mount Hyjal

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The article is wholly in-universe with no real-world context. There was a clear consensus for deletion. TerriersFan 02:26, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Battle of Mount Hyjal

As much as I love Warcraft III, this article has no notability outside of it, no references, and therefore should not have its own article. Besides, its all duplicative and the plot section of Warcraft III already has all of this information. Judgesurreal777 23:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

• Redirect WoWWiki is a Wikia project now. Redirect this entry to it instead, if possible.--Silverhand^Talk 16:03, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
• One reason not to redirect, wowwiki is blocked by many IT teams, where wikipedia is not. Whiskeyricard 19:03, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete No out-of-universe perspective, no real-world notability. Pagrashtak 22:11, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been added to the list of video game deletions. Pagrashtak 22:11, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
• Redirect If WoW has its own wiki then it belongs there. _{« ₣ullMetal ₣alcon »} 15:02, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
• Merge→Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos which is mentioned as the game in which the battle is re-enacted. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:37, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Pascal.Tesson (talk) 04:58, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

• Transwiki entire article to WoWwiki, then trim and Merge notable information into game's article. - Koweja (talk) 05:55, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete There's nothing to merge. It's a duplicated and massively expanded version of the Warcraft III plot's finale, which takes up about the same amount of space as the entire Warcraft III plot section, which itself has been appropriately summarized. It's also an instance in WoW, but an overly-detailed in-universe section on an instance isn't appropriate either. The subject matter has been covered in separate articles on WoWWiki, which seem complete, purdy and well-organized. Basically, this is exactly the sort of excessive detail we should be collectively nipping in the bud, all it does is waste contributors' time and ultimately it'll end up in a better format on a more appropriate site. In total agreement with nom.Someone another (talk) 14:12, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment When I looked at the article I suggested as the target for the merge, there was no mention of the Battle in that article. Merger can constitute extreme contraction to a handful of lines and redirection (including use of R-from-merge template). --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 14:46, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

WoWWiki refers to that battle in Warcraft III as taking place during Twilight of the Gods, the name Battle for Mount Hyjal is used to refer to the World of Warcraft instance which used the same plotline. Because someone has already listed and cited the Warcraft III plotline, putting anything from here could be fixing what isn't broke and introducing unsupported material into a cited section. Don't get me wrong, I'm very much in favour of merging whenever possible, but I don't think it accomplishes anything in this case and the article should just be let go.Someone another (talk) 15:10, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Struck text, I could have sworn that section was cited up to the eyeballs, clearly it isn't.Someone another (talk) 17:25, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

And since the Instance (World of Warcraft) article has been deleted, trying to explain within the WC3 plot text that the battle was used in World of Warcraft as an instance is going to be wordy and of debatable benefit, IE the very term Battle of Mount Hyjal isn't necessary within WC3, if you see what I mean.Someone another (talk) 15:13, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

• Delete, not real-world, fancruft. PKT 02:09, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, not real. Fee Fi Foe Fum 22:27, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.