Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Durham Station

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was nomination withdrawn (keep). --Mr. Lefty (talk) 23:05, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Battle of Durham Station

Fails WP:V. --Ineffable3000 00:16, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

I am withdrawing my nomination for deletion since The Battle of Durham Station actually existed and is easily verifiable. However, the Battle of Durham (original name for the article) never occured. --Ineffable3000 22:57, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

  • Strong Delete - as nom --Ineffable3000 00:16, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
  • No vote as of now, but there are Google hits for "Battle of Durham Station", in North Carolina, taking place in 1865.Edward Wakelin 00:23, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
  • comment this is something that should either be true, or provably false. I'd ask if anybody with access to historical documents in North Carolina has an idea. That said, there are also some google hits for a Battle of Durham in 1346, which might mean there's some need for disambiguation.. FrozenPurpleCube 00:28, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
  • ????? How does this fail WP:V??? This is easily verifiable. All we need is someone with some good Civil Wars texts to look this up....not that difficult.UberCryxic 01:23, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
    • If it is "easily verifiable", then you should be able to cite such books. The nominator has asserted that it isn't verifiable. Simply asserting that it is doesn't counter that. The only counterargument is to cite sources to demonstrate verifiability. Uncle G 07:55, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment - None of my Civil war books mention it. There is a Battle of Durham Station which existed. The generals mentioned in the article never fought in that area. --Ineffable3000 01:32, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Although Bennett Place, an important Civil War site, is near Durham, there is no "Battle of Durham" that I know of. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 01:34, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Fails WP:V is not a valid reason for deletion. I see that you are not familiar with the deletion policy as you tried to speedy this article. Move to Battle of Durham Station which is the correct title and Delete to make room for The Battle of Durham, which was a battle in Scotland in the Wars of Independence. T REXspeak 01:37, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
    • Being unverifiable most certainly is a reason for an article to be deleted. Indeed, it is one of the primary reasons for deletion. Please read our Wikipedia:Deletion policy. Uncle G 07:55, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
  • The Battle of Durham in Scotland in 1346 is also known as the Battle of Neville's Cross. T REXspeak 01:47, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Upon further consideration, Move to Battle of Durham Station, and make that factually accurate (if the generals didn't fight there). PS: Sorry if I was supposed to incorporate this into my first comment, I'm not an AfD regular. Edward Wakelin 01:52, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
  • T REX, I am not new Wikipedia and I understand the policies. I understand that many unverifiable articles are hoaxes and should be deleted. I accidently nominated it for speedy deletion. Disregard that. --Ineffable3000 03:15, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, unverifiable, battle was unlikely to exist. If it really existed, cite sources. --Terence Ong (T | C) 08:41, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment it is mentioned here and here but I'm not sure if these are verifiable. It says it occured on April 26, 1865 which is also the same date as Bennett Place which is near Durham Station. It could be an alternative name. T REXspeak 19:38, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete - the Battle of Durham Station was a very minor engagement during the Carolinas Campaign that indeed took place near Bennett Place. In my opinion, the article should be deleted as the fight was insignificant (there are hundreds of larger skirmishes that do not have a separate Wikipedia article, and in fact, are more deserving). Yes, men did fight and die at Durham Station, but they also did at Wrightsville, Eaglesport, Westminster, and many, many other places that are too small to worry about for this venue. Kill the article. or rewrite it for accuracy. Scott Mingus 20:08, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment I'm not sure what this talk is about North Carolina. The article itself is talking about Durham city, county-seat of County Durham, NE England. Neville's Cross is indeed part of Durham, the river Browney (also mentioned) feeds into the River Wear which surrounds three sides of Durham City itself. There was a battle that takes place at Neville's Cross, I've seen the sign enough times as I've been driven through Neville's Cross. I'll see if I can find some mention of it somewhere. QuagmireDog 22:40, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Hang on a minute, the title is 'Articles for Deletion, Battle of Durham Station', but the link at the top leads to 'Battle of Durham', what's gone wrong here? QuagmireDog 22:44, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.