Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle Cry (2008 film)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete JERRY talk contribs 05:46, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Battle Cry (2008 film)

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This article is about a non-notable film project that is not at all in production. It lacks any listing at IMDb, it lacks verifiable coverage from reliable sources, and its official website is on Myspace. The one "potential" star, Robert Gordon Spencer (IMDb), has no reliable hits with the film title on Google. I proposed the article for deletion, but it was contested, so here it is. No opposition to recreation down the road provided that it can meet general notability guidelines and the notability guidelines for films. Erik (talk • contrib) - 06:46, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 06:50, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete No reliable sources (the only source is a MySpace page). Considering IMDb lists films that won't come out until after 2010 and lists any movie confirmed to be in existance (even movies that are just reported and not confirmed by anyone), that puts this movies existance in doubt. TJ Spyke 07:12, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Yep, IMDb includes even announced projects. When I see films announced in Variety or The Hollywood Reporter, even with no talk of actual production, an "in-development" listing will usually pop up at IMDb. Some projects, like the Logan's Run remake, have had an entry at the website for years at end. Logan's Run used to be marked for 2007 per IMDb's estimate (see Logan's Run (2007 film)) but now it shows to be 2010, even with no sign of production. Just wanted to state that for passing editors who look at AFDs for unproduced films -- I have a few contested prods of such articles that I'm eventually putting up as not to glut the listings (see WP:FUTFILM#Clean-up). —Erik (talk • contrib) - 07:26, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Sounds good; appreciate that. If you want to find headlines that pop up about the project, you could set up a Google Alert (if you have Gmail) to get an e-mail of a new headline. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 16:57, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete Information provided seems credible, but I could find no sources via Google / Google News Archive, which would raise WP:CRYSTAL issues. Article should be recreated based on the content of the original article once reliable sources become available. Alansohn (talk) 15:29, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Yeah, I don't think it's fake information at all. It's just a pretty small-scale film, from the looks of it. There's just little significant coverage from secondary sources at this point, just information from the primary source, which doesn't establish notability. If production begins and there is independent coverage, it's likely that the film article can be recreated. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 16:57, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
  • I found sources in a search, but all were from second-tier fan-oriented sites, with nothing usable in an article to establish details. There is material there, but I'm not sure this article is ready for prime time. Alansohn (talk) 14:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
  • I think I came across similar sites, but I think it's akin to WP:BAND in which there's presently a small group congregated around the filmmakers of this project like a local band would have its fan base. It's not quite there yet. :) Hopefully Obi-Wan can track its progress to see if it reaches production and gets some independent coverage. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 15:29, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.