Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barry Comprehensive School

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was This article has changed significantly since first nominated. Result is KEEP.. Navou banter 19:07, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barry Comprehensive School

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Not sure how this satisifies notability criterion in WP:N. Contested prod. Navou banter 12:24, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep The nominator is correct in questioning the notability. However there does not seem to be consensus within the community on how to handle schools. That being said, I would err conservatively and preserve the page. I would suggest someone work to improve the article.JodyB 13:56, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
    • Change to Delete After rethinking my position and re-reading prior debate, I realize that a lack of consensus means there is no consensus to make an exception from WP:NOTE for schools. This one does not seem to meet it. Therefore, I change to delete. JodyB 14:19, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete As per what has already been said. jpmck 15:36, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep I know we've been told that OBEs are not necessarily considered notable,in the UK, but how many of them go to heads of comprehensive schools? DGG 05:22, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- TerriersFan 21:11, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - the head of this high school been awarded an OBE, a notable event, Estyn, Her Majesty's Inspectorate for Education and Training in Wales, has given this school a Grade 1 overall assessment, the highest available and this is the most improved school in Wales for the third year running. TerriersFan 22:35, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Keep per WP:A and WP:N. This one is tricky. The fact that the head is an OBE may mean that he is notable, but it does not mean that the school is notable. If he were managing a gas station, would that gas station be notable? (Note also that there is no article about the head himself.) A Grade 1 assessment may or may not make the school notable, but I can't assess that without knowing more about that program(me). I would think that However, being named the most improved school in Wales by the national education department three years in a row would makes this school notable, but I am uncomfortable relying on the school's own informational material as the sole source of this fact, and that fact is now properly sourced. (By the way, the school's report does not indicate who so named the school most improved. Was it the Prince of Wales, or Dafydd down the street?) There should be plenty of press coverage to cite in support of this fact, and I'll happily change to keep if that is provided. Nice work TF! --Butseriouslyfolks 01:40, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - I have sourced the 'most improved' statement for the third year to the schools inspectorate, added two cites for the second year and added yet another, earlier, award. TerriersFan 02:10, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. User:TerriersFan has now made substantial improvements to the article since it was nominated for deletion. The notability of the school has been established and suitable references have been provided. Dahliarose 23:09, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep This article has been greatly improved. The school appears notable. The article is comprehensive enough. LordHarris 13:52, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - I thought it was agreed that High Schools are normally notable, even if the article is a stub. A few weeks ago some one nominated a Grammar School, obviously not knowing what one was. The award of OBE (not merely MBE) to the head would certainly be sufficient to make it notable anyway. Peterkingiron 16:29, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.