Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barret Traditional Middle School

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. -- BD2412 talk 05:31, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Barret Traditional Middle School

Non-notable --TheParanoidOne 2 July 2005 18:33 (UTC)

  • Keep, schools are notable. See Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments. Kappa 2 July 2005 18:43 (UTC)
  • Delete. Spoon. Gamaliel 2 July 2005 19:05 (UTC)
  • Keep. Perfectly reasonable stub. Pburka 2 July 2005 19:36 (UTC)
  • Delete. 68.97.208.123 2 July 2005 19:50 (UTC)
  • Keep We should have articles about all schools. They are a good starting point for new contributors; deleting them is a good way to frighten potentially valuable contributors away. CalJW 2 July 2005 20:06 (UTC)
    • Comment. I think we can not ever expect to have articles on every school, not even on a very little percentage of them, nor I believe it is of any use. They are not good starting points, allowing them we are telling those young guys that this is not a serious encyclopedia, nad that they can do whatever they want to. I bet that keeping them frightens many contributers, already established as valuable. --Nabla 2005-07-04 16:25:59 (UTC)
      • Of course we can, Wikipedia is only just getting started. This concept that no one will contribute to heavyweight articles because there are also lots of minor articles is just plain silly. CalJW 5 July 2005 00:42 (UTC)
        • I did not said that no one would contribute on the major articles, I said I believe some would stop doing that. Also I disagreed with you without needing to qualify your reasoning as silly.-Nabla 2005-07-07 16:45:57 (UTC)
  • Keep or merge into a school district page — Just who's going to use this encyclopedia anyway? Students??? Gasp, shock. :) — RJH 2 July 2005 21:13 (UTC)
  • Keep verifiable and NPOV schools or you just might "extinguish the creative mind". ;-) DoubleBlue (Talk) 2 July 2005 21:21 (UTC)
  • Strong delete. Verifiability and NPOV does not indicate importance or Notability!!! Dunc|☺ 2 July 2005 21:35 (UTC)
    • I would ask you what is such a "bloody stupid thing to say"? [1] DoubleBlue (Talk) 2 July 2005 22:49 (UTC)
      • Say something along the lines of "this article on a middle school is verifiable and NPOV?, therefore it is important", see logical fallacy. Dunc|☺ 3 July 2005 10:10 (UTC)
    • Non-verifiable and POV are deletion critera. Importance and Notability are not. DoubleBlue (Talk) 2 July 2005 22:49 (UTC)
      • Perhaps you should read other VfD's then. Many bands, individual people, and companies are deleted purely by reason of lack of notability/importance. Also, by the results of the Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Race and intelligence debate and others, POV is not a deletion criterion; if it were, then our articles on controversial subjects would all be gone. --Idont Havaname 7 July 2005 19:41 (UTC)
        • comment. The distinction is between articles where notability is not yet established and articles where it could not possibly be established. The lengthy debate about school articles in general showed that many people feel that schools have intrinsic notability. If nothing much has been said, it is preferred that they remain merged with their locale, but such preference does not amount to an established criteria for deletion. You are correct about POV. That is an editing issue, not a reason to delete. Dystopos 7 July 2005 20:03 (UTC)
  • Keep, notability indicated (I don't require much, but I do require something). Gazpacho 3 July 2005 04:13 (UTC)
  • keep. Personal attacks are not permitted on WP. Verifiable NPOV stubs are. Dystopos 3 July 2005 04:57 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep. I'm not sure that calling itself a "magnet school" is actually so NPOV. -- Natalinasmpf 3 July 2005 10:23 (UTC)
    • I think that magnet schools are usually designated as such by the school board. I could be wrong, though. Pburka 3 July 2005 14:45 (UTC)
    • Source for magnet school designation is the school board. DoubleBlue (Talk) 3 July 2005 15:16 (UTC)
  • Keep: See Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments. --Alex12 3 3 July 2005 12:21 (UTC)
  • Keep. This one is a classic. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 3 July 2005 14:04 (UTC)
  • Keep. Ladle. —RaD Man (talk) 3 July 2005 18:50 (UTC)
  • Delete. There is a section on education on Louisville,_Kentucky#Education that doesn't even mention it, or directs to it in any other way. Why? Because it is of no importance whatsoever, I guess. --Nabla 2005-07-04 02:02:12 (UTC)
  • Keep, mildly educational. 24 @ 4 July 2005 02:48 (UTC)
  • Keep. -- Necrothesp 4 July 2005 18:53 (UTC)
  • Delete, or merge with Jefferson County Public Schools at best, nothing notable or newsworthy to be found here. --Idont Havaname 5 July 2005 00:48 (UTC)
  • Keep, wikipedia is not a book. .:.Jareth.:. babelfish July 6, 2005 18:49 (UTC)
  • Merge with the appropriate geographical article, to keep the school inclusionists happy. --Carnildo 6 July 2005 20:36 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.