Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bangladesh International School, Dammam

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. An overall agreement seems to have been reached, and the nominator appears to not object to closing this AFD with this result with improvements now made to the article. Camaron | Chris (talk) 13:27, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bangladesh International School, Dammam

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Usually we tolerate articles about non-notable schools, but I am very concerned about recent BLP vandalism on this article. It is not the usual "My teacher smells bad" stuff that is too ridiculous to be called libel -- it is actually allegations of corruption against specific school personnel (e.g. [1]). If the topic were notable, I'd just say semi-protect -- but since this article doesn't really deserve to exist anyway (totally non-notable school), let's just ax it to avoid any needless complications. Jaysweet (talk) 16:04, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Clarification regarding original nom: Let me be perfectly clear: Vandalism is not the reason why I think this article should be deleted. Vandalism was the catalyst. I do not believe it meets the notability requirements. For whatever reason, Wikipedia culture seems to tolerate articles about non-notable schools even when they are quite deletable. So typically, I would overlook an article like this, even if I thought it was deletion-worthy. The vandalism issue simply spurred me on me to nominate an article that I already had notability concerns about when I first put it on my watchlist.

If you believe the school is notable, please address that below, and if the consensus turns out to be that the school is notable, then I'll just keep an eye on the vandalism and it will not be a problem. But do not say "Vandalism is a bad reason for deletion" because I already know that, and everybody else here knows that, and that's not the point. --Jaysweet (talk) 17:53, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

• Delete PerNom, If it were to stay it should get a WP:HEY sort of rework. Golgofrinchian (talk) 16:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. —• Gene93k (talk) 18:07, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep - a Bangladesh school in Saudi Arabia, how notable is that? This achievement can be added for starters. Vandalism is a very bad reason for deletion - we have the tools, protection, blocking etc to deal with that. TerriersFan (talk) 18:29, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

  Comment If I'm wrong about the notability, then definitely the article should be kept. The vandalism is not the reason for the AfD, it's only the catalyst. I don't want to keep a non-notable article that is having libel added to it; but if I'm wrong and this school is notable, then it should be kept and we'll just stay vigilant about the vandalism. --Jaysweet (talk) 18:42, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

  Comment I do not buy that the "achievement" you linked to above makes it notable. A couple of students got some awards -- and not just awards that are given out to any students, but if I'm reading the article right, these are awards given to: students in foreign schools based in Saudi Arabia that are affiliated with nations that are part of the British Commonwealth. Phew! Nah, I'd have to see more than that to be convinced this is a notable school. --Jaysweet (talk) 20:30, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

• Keep, vandalism is not a reason to delete an article. The school seems to be notable, so unless something else surfaces I'll stick with TerriersFan on this one. CRGreathouse (t | c) 22:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment: for what it's worth I agree that the awards do not add any notability. But somehow a British-backed Bangladeshi international grade school-high school in Saudi Arabia would seem to be notable just for being, well, that. Maybe I'm wrong there... any figures on this kind of thing? CRGreathouse (t | c) 22:39, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
    • I don't quite see how this is anything unusual. The Gulf states are a huge destination for South Asian skilled and unskilled migration. Isn't anything new about it - back in the 70s and 80s, hundreds of thousands of South Koreans came to take those exact same jobs. Some brought kids, so they set up schools too. cab (talk) 00:21, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

• Keep I agree with User:Jaysweet that a brief mention about a student who goes to the school in an article about some kids who got high grades on an exam isn't enough to establish notability (nor are a lot of the other fluff articles you can find on GNews like "School holds graduation ceremony" [2]), but there is other non-trivial coverage from the Arab News, mainly due to issues with the school's management board [3][4][5]. cab (talk) 00:21, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
• Comment TerriersFan has done some great work with the article, and with it tidied up like that it is easier to monitor for vandalism. Since consensus seems to be keep, I'll just keep it on my watchlist and hopefully we can keep the BLP vandalism off the page. Any admin reading this, you can probably close the AfD, as I don't see a Delete consensus, and I don't really care that much anymore. --Jaysweet (talk) 18:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.