Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bandog Dread
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Wizardman 02:19, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Bandog Dread
No evidence that this is a famous or otherwise notable dog. Google returns roughly 665 hits for the phrase but half of them are Wikipedia mirrors and the other half fall in the category of unreliable sources. [1] Suggesting deletion unless evidence of encyclopedic merit can be provided. RFerreira (talk) 23:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- Weak delete A dog could be notable enough for an article, but I found only such sourcing as an opinion piece(letter to editor? editorial? Blog?)) in an Alaska newspaper [2] saying "Another little known fact is that the dog who has obtained the most titles of any breed ever, was and APBT named Bandog Dread, owned by Diane Jessup." Also I found the dog's owner Jessup's fairly popular book [3] which talks about the dog. These just do not seem to stack up as sufficiently reliable and independent to satisfy WP:N. There should be newspaper article for each of those claimed awards, somewhere. Edison (talk) 23:34, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- Its possible that the editorial/blog you refer to may have relied upon Wikipedia as a source, and beyond that everything else is based upon primary sources (the author writing about her own dog). If there are any experts on this subject who are aware of any reliable third party sources about the subject, I will respectfully defer to them. RFerreira (talk) 23:40, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- Just for the record, the sitnews.us posting is dated August 2006, while our article was not created until October 2006. --Dhartung | Talk 00:11, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you Dhartung, I should have noticed -- that settles the chicken/egg question at least. :-) RFerreira (talk) 00:13, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- Its possible that the editorial/blog you refer to may have relied upon Wikipedia as a source, and beyond that everything else is based upon primary sources (the author writing about her own dog). If there are any experts on this subject who are aware of any reliable third party sources about the subject, I will respectfully defer to them. RFerreira (talk) 23:40, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- Delete per Edison. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 23:58, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- Delete, fails WP:RS even if it's true. If true, I'd like some context as to whether these are awards in a similar classification or not, e.g. I wouldn't think that winning the Ketchikan Dog Show would be as prestigious as another. --Dhartung | Talk 00:11, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - Notable subject as it is the "most decorated dog in history." Here is a reference from The Times naming Bandog Dread the 15th greatest sporting animal of all time: [1] I think although this dog may not have a huge web presence, the subject may be covered in depth in books. I think that we need the opinion of someone who is familiar with dog competitions and the subject in general to help clarify this before it is deleted.BWH76 (talk) 09:07, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
- Delete per the nominator. Looks like an unusual case of self-promotion, I see nothing substantiative to indicate this dog is worthy of encyclopedic note. (jarbarf) (talk) 20:26, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
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