Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Baltro and Steng

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The result of the debate was No Consensus. Redwolf24 04:49, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Baltro and Steng

Why have an article on a subject so obscure it has only 3 results on google, two of which reference back to wikipedia? Far too specialist. Erwin Walsh

• Keep -- Zatch Bell is clearly not obscure. What google provides is apparently little indication on this subject.. did you have a search done for references to the subject that would be in Japanese? --Mysidia (talk) 20:10, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps, then, the article belongs in the Japanese wikipedia? Erwin Walsh

No, because the article is written in English, it clearly the one that belongs on the English Wikipedia. I can't read Japanese, so this is pretty speculative, but if a subject is notable enough that it should be in the Japanese Wikipedia, then it should most definitely have an article written in English on the English Wikipedia also. --Mysidia (talk) 21:29, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

I would agree that Mysidia's arguments as to retaining within the English Wikipedia and of overall non-obscurity is sound. However, I disagree with the conclusion this justifies a stand alone article.

Should this not then be Expanded or Merged (with a possible redirect) with the main Zatch Bell article's reference to the Baltro and Steng characters? Alternatively, should all of the Zatch Bell characters have expanded entries develop? Looking at what seems to be the Japanese wikipedia Zatch Bell entry, it would appear (from my feeble attempt to use Google's translator) that the Japanese entry has the individual characters only described within the Zatch Bell page, not on individual pages. This would imply a Merge back into the main article, with a Redirect added at Baltro and Steng to the main Zatch Bell article, as the best course. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abb3w (talk • contribs) on 21:59, 14 August 2005

• Merge/Redirect to Zatch Bell! --Alan Au 22:01, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
• Comment I still can't believe they renamed it Zatch Bell... --zippedmartin 00:31, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
  • And Gash Bell is somehow better? --Calton | Talk 00:42, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

It's a closer transcription of ガッシュ at any rate. Though I guess you don't care much about that if you're a US dub watcher. Anyway, delete, if someone wants to merge the content into either the anime article or a <anime> characters article, that's fair enough. Kenshin might just about warrent his own article, Saitō Hajime does not. Well.. he does but... er.. you get the idea. --zippedmartin 01:38, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

I live in Tokyo and don't care what they call it in the US or why an exact romaji rendering of the original matters to anyone. I assume they renamed it for the same reason that Calpis drinks and Canon's BJ printers aren't called that in the US. --Calton | Talk 16:10, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

God knows why they did it, my brain just has problems when the subtitled names bare little relation to the dialogue (not a problem you have with printers). If you(pl.) watch either dub without little letters along the bottom, I'm sure that isn't an issue. --zippedmartin 17:47, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

• Delete outright: nothing worth merging, and if the Japanese Wikipedia doesn't think it's worth a stand-alone article, then it's not. --Calton | Talk 00:42, August 15, 2005 (UTC)
• Right then. Delete and Redirect entry to main ZB! article. Abb3w 01:37, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

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