Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ballacraine railway station

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus, defaulting to Keep. Black Kite 23:31, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ballacraine railway station

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Delete 5 hints in Google search when searching as Ballacraine railway station [1] and 5 hints when searching as Ballacraine Halt [2]. Fails WP:N. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 11:22, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. —• Gene93k (talk) 12:57, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
• Comment per WP:GOOGLEHITS. Google's usefulness in history searches is limited. The best quality source I found [3] points offline to books for further reading. It also indicates that the station saw it main use during the 1870s. • Gene93k (talk) 13:17, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
• Delete A place where trains stopped for a couple of brief periods in history. Not ever claimed to be an important rail station or to have had a notable structure. Nothing at Google Newsw archives or Google scholar, and even the rail fancier site found by Gene93k wasn't sure just where on the map it had been. Fails notability. Edison (talk) 18:28, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep. Notability does not expire. All railway stations are notable. --Eastmain (talk) 19:43, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
• Comment Claims like "All X'x are inherently notable" should be supported by guidelines or AFD precedents which are overwhelming. In this case the place is described as a "stop." Was there a building there? Where are sources illustrating it or discussing it? A place known only because a train stopped there for two brief periods in history sounds inherently NON-notable. If it was not notable when it was in service as a stopping place for trains, then the permanency of notability is irrelevant. Edison (talk) 19:47, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
• Delete unless evidence of multiple third party sources can be located about the subject. RFerreira (talk) 22:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
• Comment even if it's really non-notable, redirecting to Isle of Man Railway stations#The Peel Line (Closed) makes more sense to me than deleting it. cab (talk) 23:46, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep - Notability doesn't expire as Eastmain said. The source found by Fene93k verifies this station was in use in the 19th century. --Oakshade (talk) 01:08, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
• REdirect to the railway for the present. This stub is too brief to survive at present, but the practice seems to be developing of having an article on many stations. When there is at least a short paragraph of information, the aricle could be reinstated. Peterkingiron (talk) 20:54, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
• Query - something appears to be wrong with the AFD notice on the article: can some one please check the nomination has been done correctly? Peterkingiron (talk) 20:54, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep Practice has been 100% consistent that all railroad stations, present and past are notable. I thought this strange at first, but it turns out there are always references. Might be more useful to get them than to argue here about it. DGG (talk) 23:31, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep or Redirect Using Google as a source is unreliable when referencing information about islands such as the Isle of Man. As a resident of the Island I am fully aware that there is limited information online that Google Bots can pick up links from. I can cite numerous books that make reference to this station (at least 5 in my personal possesion reference it). I have made a couple of minor edits to the page and placed an external link to a page that includes a photo of the halt and a map. It should be noted that only the termini and significant stops had buildings and/or platforms, that's just the way the railways was built and run- eg Castletown station(the island's former Capital and Santon staation had platforms built within last 5 years. Ripsaw (talk) 15:09, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.