Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Baking oven

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete, I guess, but redirecting makes so much sense ... fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 13:55, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Baking oven

This page adds nothing to oven, of which it is a subset, already covered there. Any information that could conceivably go here should be there instead. Fnarf999 18:37, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Fnarf999 18:47, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
• Merge with oven if there is something to merge, Delete otherwise. -- Grafikm_fr ^(AutoGRAF) 19:14, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
• Merge in anything useful (if there is anything) and redirect to oven to avoid anyone else creating the article again. SFC9394 21:25, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect per SFC9394. -- ReyBrujo 21:16, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep the oven article does not point out that a "baking oven" is designed for food preparation, and links to a couple of other special oven articles. I do not see a need for deletion - adds nothing does not look an understandable formulation. The article does not mention houlsehold oven's at all (except link to microwave).
  

There is no deletion reason by policy, which explicitely spells to keep a few lines stub article, if it is expandable. See Mentuhotep_I, this is not going to be merged. I ask to withdraw the deletion. Akidd dublin•tl•ctr-l 10:04, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

You can't ask for nomination withdrawal - only the nominator can do that. As for the various bits that you say the oven article doesn't cover - that is why merge has been commonly proposed. That way the information will be saved, but it will stop two articles on near identical subjects growing beside each other, confusing the end reader and splitting the collaborative power in half. SFC9394 10:19, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

The assertion that the article Oven does not mention food preparation is nonsense. In the very first sentence it says "An oven is an enclosed compartment for heating, baking or drying," and most of the content of the article describes food preparation. The major subhead is entitled "Cooking". It is true that the article is not a particularly good one, but that's why it has an expand tag. A "baking oven" is not a separate type of oven in the same sense that a "microwave oven" or a "dutch oven" is. Fnarf999 16:20, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Right, i do not insist to keep it, just it does not bug much (it is NPOV). I missed the oven article spelling the difference between industrial furnace, baking oven (for food), and well, they are also into funeral business, wikipedia is not censored not to scare minors. All that gets too much for the oven article, or it gets something like transformer. This one is not even complete, and definetively will require a split up some day. Nothing wrong with including a few pictures, disk space has become affordable recently. Consider this, and generally articles may expand quickly, and split-up makes sense sometimes.
By the way i browsed other deletion proposals. Probably it makes a difference who suggested it for Afd. If it is not myself, i am entitled (by sampling other deletions) to make defending comments. User:Akidd_dublin 9 may 2006

For subjects so similar it makes more sense to have one article. As the sections within the article grow and expand then at some point the decision may be taken to split them up for easier digestion by end readers. If you wish to add more about baking ovens then go ahead and add relevant content to the oven article - then in time it may make sense to give it its own article. You are - of course - fully entitled to make defending comments for this deletion nomination, and I am glad to see that you have. SFC9394 22:01, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Start of a duplicate article and there is nothing substantial to merge at present. BigE1977 16:55, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. A redirect would be problematic (to oven or to baking?), so unless the article is to become a permanent dictdef, do not merge. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 19:20, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, pointless dicdef. rspeer / ɹəədsɹ 21:40, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Redundant - that is what an oven does, ie bake.--Michael Johnson 01:32, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Nothing really worth merging in this article. Possibly have it redirect to oven as it refers to an object and not the act of baking. Jgamekeeper 08:14, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, an oven, by definition, is meant for baking. Oven even says that. This article is redundant. Second, it adds nothing original, and it won't be getting to the point where it does. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 06:30, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, content fork. Sandstein 08:57, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.