Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/BYU Accounting Ph.D. prep track

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Philippe 23:26, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] BYU Accounting Ph.D. prep track

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Notability not definitively established. Slightly improved version of BYU Ph.D. prep track, which was salted after three attempts at creation--but not enough to stay here. Blueboy96 20:11, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete Universities are generally notable, and departments can be if they are rather reknowned in their field. But a subsection / particular track of a department that itself is probably non-notable? Nope. Delete Bfigura (talk) 23:16, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete A sub-department program, with no real notice outside the university. The BYU Marriott School of Management is notable, and conceivably individual departments might be, but an individual degree offered by it would not be, and this is just a track within such a degree program. this article has been deleted several times under various titles, and its time to get rid of this sort of advertising.DGG (talk) 23:51, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete a google search turns up no results not from the wikipedia article or the BYU website.  Atyndall93 | talk  07:07, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep The Ph.D. prep track is quite notable in accounting academics. As evidenced by the "Innovation in Accounting Education Award" which is from the largest most notable accounting academic organization in the world. It has been recognized as a solution to the problem for the large imbalance in supply of accounting Ph.D.'s (see "On Balance: The Magazine of Wisconsin CPAs" (http://www.wicpa.org/multimedia/mayjune07/phdcrisis.htm)). It has been recognized by other professional magazines (see The Utah Business Magazine http://www.utahbusiness.com/parser.php?nav=email_article&article_id=4657) and it has been recognized by independent academics as a solution to the accounting Ph.D. shortage (see Bob Jensen's tidbits (http://www.trinity.edu/rjensen/tidbits/2007/tidbits070612.htm). Your google search must have been flawed, because I found all of these links using google search. It is important to consider the size of the community when deciding on the notability of an article. To all of the world this is not the most notable article; however, to accounting academics it is. By my estimates, the Ph.D. prep track is responsible for 5-10% of new accounting faculty produced every year. That is a very sizable effect. The article was deleted before because I did a poor job of writing it, and didn't realize the importance of citing external sources. There are several external sources that discuss the importance of the Ph.D. track--which is the most important criteria for establishing notability. Therefore I think the article should stay. Daw44 (talk) 13:33, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 16:25, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment: This seems notable, but not enough for its own article. A merger would seem to be appropriate. CRGreathouse (t | c) 16:48, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
    • Comment: With what article would you recommend it merge? I could see creating a School of Accountancy page (BYU's accounting program is highly ranked, innovative, and employs a number of "big" names) that would make it notable. I don't think it fits under the Marriott School of Management. Any other ideas? Daw44 (talk) 16:57, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep This was posted on the discussion page, but I think was meant to be posted here. "Deleting this article is not warranted. As I have stated before, the persons who are best able to judge the relative impact this program has are those in accounting academia. If you are not in accounting academia, ask someone who is to weigh in. There are hundreds of wikipedia articles out there with fewer citations, that are less relavent, and that are obvious advertisement. To be truthful, advertising is not needed for this program. The only people eligable to be a part of it are at BYU, and they will all have a presonal presentation on the program. The only reason for a wikipedia article is to provide a place where the litterally hundreds of people a year who are deciding to accept or hire PhD prep track members another place to gather information about the track.--Jlamro (talk) 14:00, 17 April 2008 (UTC)" Daw44 (talk) 17:15, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete as failing WP:N. Five Years 17:27, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete as failing WP:N. --Eustress (talk) 17:34, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge to Marriott School of Management, move to BYU School of Accountancy and broaden, or delete. CRGreathouse (t | c) 22:45, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment I merged the article with the newly created BYU School of Accountancy and broadened the article. Although I think the Ph.D. program has notability on its own, I will give it a few more years to establish its own notability before starting it as a new article. Go ahead and delete the old page. Daw44 (talk) 14:45, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge/redirect to BYU School of Accountancy#Ph.D. Prep Track as boldly actioned by Daw44. TerriersFan (talk) 20:15, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.