Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/B21

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep JERRY talk contribs 04:33, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] B21

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This is a band that won some local and student awards, but does not appear to have made any kind of wider impression. There are no sources for the one claim of notability, and the link is wrong, it links to the Hindu word, we don't have an article on the track. Tagged for cleanup in September, not cleaned up. Guy (Help!) 14:58, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

  • "Darshan", by "Btwoone" is on the IMDB soundtrack list for Bend it like Beckham. Uncle G (talk) 17:25, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep. Passes WP:BAND#10 (soundtrack of a notable film), but see the caveat to that entry. Tevildo (talk) 19:14, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Which caveat? That the band need to have been the primary subject of multiple non-trivial independent sources? Source would be good :-) Guy (Help!) 20:20, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
"if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article [for the film]". [1] is probably an adequate source for the claim, as IMDb is officially excluded - I've added this to the article. Tevildo (talk) 21:08, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Why deleting ?? - I think it sounds for me there might exist some antipathy against the writer because of the problems (one month blockage is heavy) instead focussing onto the aspect of "rescuing the article". But not up to me to score. Back to the theme: Names which are less famous can become famous. Is WP a source only for celebrities? This group is active since 1996 till today. So 11-12 years existance indicates some substances. Did you know that the Beatles did nearby 300 local gigs in / around Liverpool before they became famous and started their world carrier in Hamburg, Germany ?? - Imagine, that time you'd have said this. Hey folks, let's delete them, they are local. Today you would be blamed if you look at the immortal success of the Beatles.
A source linkage to IMDb now exists, so better "we" the Wikipedians wish all the best to this music group with all objective distance (It's not really my taste of music) and... don't overtake the judge to kill them. The group mostly won Asian wards and we from Western world I would say have nearby a "0" knowledge what's hip in Asia.
Improve the article, that's a must. What I think really weak is the biographical aspect. One sentence at the beginning, that's not enoug. But not enough also to kill the article. What's about with the music style, the education of the musicians, how were they contracted for the 1st album ? - I am shure there exist details about. Only presenting a CD list and Awards is like advertising. In this point push the article into a draft status ("to be improved") and let it shape from writers who like to go deeper into the details. (Not me, I am focussed on Indian Classical Music). --ElJay Arem (talk) 22:16, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
The author is blocked for something else entirely. Guy (Help!) 11:18, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
  • if deleted, redirect to North American XB-21 70.51.10.115 (talk) 08:13, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
    • Volvo Redblock Engine is another potential candidate. If deleted, it's probably best as a dab between the aircraft and the engine. Tevildo (talk) 21:48, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
  • B21 is a huge bhangra group, in the asian music industry. There are close to one billion people in India, and this band is extremely huge over there. Jus because you may not have heard of them, or they aren't huge in the western scene (Although there songs have been on a few US movies) does not mean you can decredit them as some sort of uni band. Granted, the page has yet to be developed, but to remove this page for for B21 PLANE would be ridiculous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.67.149.165 (talk) 08:42, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Unless references verifying the awards claims are provided AND it can be established that these awards are "major" (as specified in WP:MUSIC), I don't see how they pass WP:MUSIC. Precious Roy (talk) 17:28, 9 January 2008 (UTC) !vote changed to Keep Based on this article I found, I now think they meet WP:MUSIC. More and better references would be preferred, but I think this is at least enough to keep the article. Precious Roy (talk) 02:07, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
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