Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Avriri

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete without prejudice to recreation if at least one solid source can be uncovered; the current ones just don't cut it. BLACKKITE 16:55, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Avriri

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A non-notable group. Most of the sources are self-published. The only exceptions are Haaretz and YNet - these are well-established Israeli news sources, but the cited articles do not mention Avriri, but only certain persons which this page claims to be members of Avriri. Note - Googling for Avriri or the Hebrew name אוורירי is useless, because it's a common Hebrew word which meaning means something like "full with air" or "refreshing". You may try searching for אוורירי קמר (Avriri Kamer), but you won't find much more than Kamer's blogs. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 10:40, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

not much, but enough to make it notable and verifiable bt far. Marina T. (talk) 20:33, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Nope - blogs are largely not acceptable as sources. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 23:59, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

as noted in External Links of the article the group and\or manifesto was mentioned in Haaretz [1], Walla [2] and Nana [3]. Marina T. (talk) 19:17, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

and here [4] in english from YNET. Marina T. (talk) 19:24, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

The only article that actually mentions Avriri is the article from Nana that discusses a free of charge evening of Avriri films in a pub. In my opinion it is far from enough to establish notability.

Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia, but it doesn't mean that there should be an article here about every drop-out cinema student that shows his home movies to his friends in a pub, even if his friends happen to work in popular newspapers. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 19:48, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

• Keep - valid group, has a solid manifesto that was published in various cinema papers, links are not internal. Marina T. (talk) 01:40, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

in Category:Movements in cinema there are similar groups, manifesto alone make it notable, as long as the manifesto was discussed and reviewed in leading journals. Marina T. (talk) 10:13, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, was it? If you can provide a couple of convincing citations, i will withdraw this AfD. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 23:58, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

• Comment I received a note on my talkpage directing me to this AfD. (Canvassing?) I recuse myself from the discussion because of this. NF24^{(radio me!)} 20:46, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Caknuck (talk) 18:56, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

• Weak Keep pending sources I can't find anything on Google, but the hits seem mildly common. --Sharkface217 03:10, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as non notable unless some independent, reliable sources that actually establish notability of Avriri are provided. Nuttah (talk) 11:28, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete but would change my position with one convincing source. Cool Hand Luke 10:25, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.