Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AutoCAD Layers

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. I've userfied it at User:Endgame1/AutoCAD Layers if someone would like to transwiki it -- Samir धर्म 04:49, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AutoCAD Layers

Page is essentially a how-to/guide for AutoCAD software and is a POV editorial on the software's appropriate use in the eyes of the artice creator. Wikipedia is not a how-to and while this software is notable, its every nuance and function is not. ju66l3r 09:21, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

• I disagree; this article shows what an Architect actually does, in regards to AutoCAD and why the AutoCAD Layers are the most important tool of an Architect in the software AutoCAD. --Endgame1 21:22, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Keep :

• I have improved the article. --Endgame1 21:14, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

• I am currently studying Architecture in post-secondary institute, and I believe the information in this article is valuable, for other people. --Endgame1 21:14, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

• Finally I would like to state the purpose of an Encyclopedia: A reference work (often in several volumes) containing articles on various topics (often arranged in alphabetical order) dealing with the entire range of human knowledge or with some particular specialty. --Endgame1 09:46, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

• You should read the links that I have provided you on what this website is NOT, specifically the subcategory on "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information" nor is it a collection of essays (also on the WP:NOT page). It addresses your misconception that this encyclopedia is for the purpose of cataloging the entire range of human knowledge. Thanks. ju66l3r 09:40, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

• The purpose of "Google Books Project" is then an indiscriminate collection of information for the purpose of cataloging the entire range of human knowledge? --Endgame1 09:46, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

• "Science and human intelligence are of the highest importance. If a belief cannot stand up to reason – if it cannot be demonstrated by experiment – then it has to be discarded."--Endgame1 09:56, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

• If you want to discuss this as a question of the policies of Wikipedia, you should do so on the WP:NOT policy's discussion page. The point remains that as per the policy as it exists now, this page does not qualify for inclusion in my opinion. So, I put it up for responses from other editors to determine what a consensus of editors will decide on the matter. I believe your views as the article's creator are clear here, so please just sit tight and see what others have to say. The process is a 5-day one. ju66l3r 10:06, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

• Ju6613r please compare my article to 0.999....

Delete - Wikipedia is not a how-to or an essay collection. Michael K. Edwards 09:34, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

• Comment you know, if this information is truly valuable, you may wish to put it on your own personal webspace, or see if there is interest at Autodesk User Group Int FrozenPurpleCube 16:37, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

• The website you are refering to is a paid website. Information should be free in the "Information Age."--Endgame1 21:33, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

• Keep I never understood layers in Autocad, so I found the article interesting. It is far from "indiscriminate information."Edison 17:25, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as a "how to guide" it is in effect WP:OR. If kept it needs a complete rewrite for style QuiteUnusual 22:11, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete But I agree with Endgame1 that a good article about CAD layers would be encyclopedic. The problem is, AutoCAD is not the only software to use layers -- (I'm a Vectorworks user myself.) And this article is far too instructional in tone. What's needed here is an article titled, perhaps Layers (CAD) with a description of how layers function in CAD programs and are used, not suggestions about how best to use them. I'm a bit of hack with Vectorworks myself, however, I think Endgame1 could create the appropriate article... Dina 23:23, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete or completely rewrite - I'm an AutoCAD user so can vouch for it's factual accuracy and suggest the original R12 manual as a good source if the article's unreferenced nature is a problem for others - for me though, this article reads like the person ruminations of an autocad user and is, as such, unencylopedic.

"An important thing to realise about AutoCAD is that it is not some kind of digital drawing board. A lot of inexperienced users approach the program as if it was MS Paint for engineers, and end up creating horribly thought out and disorganised drawings that can cause no end of strife and frustration for those who may later be required to work with the files. Not only can badly created drawings cause ulcers to other AutoCAD users, they make it a lot easier for design flaws to sneak into the process."

Complete rewrite needed per Dina above I'm afraid. --Mcginnly | Natter 09:51, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Wikipedia isn't a repository of software documentation. If the article was about general CAD principles and architecture, and not specifically AutoCAD, I'd say keep, but as it is, I say delete or completely rewrite. =Axlq 04:01, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete/Transwiki/Rewrite I think WikiBooks is the right place for How To stuff. Rewrite so it discusses layers as a general principle of CAD software.--Richard 05:34, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
• Transwiki to WikiBooks. This is a well written peace whose author obviously put a lot of work into, I see no reason why it should just be deleted.--Konst.able^Talk 12:31, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

• Comment:

  Do not, under any circumstances, just scribble down a line in a place that "looks" right. What kind of database user are you to be inserting 199.9813 when you mean 200? If you want one line to begin where a previous one ends, then ensure they contact at EXACTLY the same point. You can use the "Object Snaps" feature to make this work properly, and there is no excuse for creating drawings that contain elements that look like they line up until you zoom in to micrometer scales and discover why those polylines weren't joining correctly or those hatches weren't applying properly etc.

  -- That is an example of good writing? ju66l3r 17:08, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, it may need a clean up, but it looks like a legible peace of writing with some valuable information to me. If the Wikibooks people think it's beyond hope (I doubt they will though), then they can delete it there.--Konst.able^Talk 03:03, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. WP is not software manual. What would be the next - ProEngineer volume modeling? Pavel Vozenilek 16:25, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.