Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Australian Labor Students

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete Small + Regionals and Love and Rage (Australia) and merge Australian Labor Students into National Union of Students of Australia. It was unanimous that the first two articles should be deleted but there was no consensus on ALS. It is an editorial decision, for the talk page of National Union of Students of Australia, whether Australian Labor Students should be resplit or remain as a merged article but with no sources, and an article that is redolent of OR, I would expect that any recreation would feature in a fresh AfD coming soon to a computer near you! TerriersFan 03:27, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Australian Labor Students

content that does not belong in an encyclopedia, content not verifiable in a reliable source, as it contravenes No Original Research Croster 13:47, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Update I am also nominating the following related pages because they all follow the same criteria, per User:GarrieIrons:

Small + Regionals (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Love and Rage (Australia) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Croster 06:31, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Revert-Update Removed National Broad Left, Non-Aligned Left, Left Alliance per Rebecca. Croster 08:07, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions. -- Croster 13:56, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete For a student organization, notability is sketchy. Only 700 google hits, and not much from reliable third party sources. YechielMan 16:34, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Per nom and ors. Another waste of electronic space article. Thewinchester (talk) 22:39, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete unless verification is provided in full.Garrie 23:52, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Are we going to see Grassroots Left, Independents, National Liaison Committee and Student Unity all listed? They are all unsoureced / undersourced.Garrie 23:58, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Google News Archives comes up with four references. [1] Seems to be faction of the National Organisation of Labor Students and possibly worth a mention in that article. Capitalistroadster 02:56, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
    • It isn't a faction of NOLS; it was a major faction in its own right, which later merged with NOLS to form a new group. If you're going to vote to delete something, please make sure you at least know what it is you're voting to delete. Rebecca 07:53, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - put a mention in the NOLS article, but nothing more. JRG 05:29, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
    • See above. Rebecca 07:53, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Post-Update votes start hereCroster 06:31, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Split into their own respective AfDs.
    • Australian Labor Students was a major national faction, and as with the others, has received coverage in the mainstream media accordant with that standing. National Broad Left is a similar case. Neither of these should be here at all.
    • There are, I would argue, enough sources to warrant keeping Left Alliance (Australia) and Non-Aligned Left. I suspect these may need to be slimmed down, as some of the material there seems to be OR, but there is enough there to have a good, sourced shorter article explaining their history and influence.
    • I can't really find any sources to back up Small + Regionals and Love and Rage (Australia). These would seem to me to be fair candidates for deletion. Rebecca 07:53, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Revert-Update votes start hereCroster Croster 08:07, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Note - All three are now non-existent, or defunct, student organisations, with little hope of acquiring Verifiable, Reliable sources and thus becoming devoid of Original Research. Croster 08:24, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Australian Labor Students, delete Small + Regionals and Love and Rage (Australia). The first one is clearly notable; the latter two, while interesting, there's just no reputable sources about. Rebecca 09:01, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Australian Labor Students and delete the other two. I havent been able to find any proof of the other two; not enough to warrant a merge. John Vandenberg 12:56, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Australian Labor Students, delete Small + Regionals and Love and Rage (Australia) per Rebecca. The first has won a number of NUS elections in various guises and forms and hence would be notable and sourceable. Orderinchaos 10:49, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete There are no secondary sources cited, therefore the subject is not notable under WP:N. Four incidental mentions in a newspaper ain't enough to constitute non-trivial mentions. Schools and churches get deleted here even when they have double or triple the mentions of these subjects. Assize 11:39, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Australian Labor Students, delete Small + Regionals and Love and Rage (Australia) per Rebecca. JRG 00:51, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge and redirect to National Union of Students of Australia. Australian Labor Students is at best borderline notable, but it is clearly part of the target article, for which sources can surely be found. --SmokeyJoe 02:01, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.