Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Astral music
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS. That's one editor each way! -Splashtalk 00:45, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Astral music
Article about a music genre. The only artist listed as an example of it (its creator) is not on AMG, nor is this genre itself listed on AMG (which lists such obscure genres as Sludge Metal, Sadcore and the aptly named Obscuro. While there are a few things called Astral Music, such as a music company and a cruise ship line, attempts to narrow it down to this particular instance of Astral Music yield practically nothing [1]. Possible redirect to Space music, though I've never heard it called that. W.marsh 21:19, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Keep - I see no problem with it. Its in relatively widespread use. Its a genre of music used by people who are interested in astral travel. In some ways this is similar to such things as pagan rock, but since astral travel doesn't necessarily follow 1 particular religion, then it is different. Effectively, it is talking about meditation through music. Very relevant. Go to a yoga session and see what kind of music they play. It'll be this type. Oh, and 44,500 passes the google test too, quite easily. Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 04:15, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- But is what you described actually called Astral music by anyone? I think it's called Space music or more likely New Age music. As I mentioned in the nom, not many of the Google results are actually related to what's discussed in the article... so the raw number is rather irrelevent. Please cite a source for the claim that the term is in "relatively widespread use". --W.marsh 04:24, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry, that's what I've always called it, for the past 15 years or so. I thought that google verified that. I guess there is a case to suggest that it means the same thing as new-age music. It depends on who you ask. Its the same deal with a lot of these music categories. Since 1990 or so, every band in existence wants to have their own unique sound. It started with alternative music, and then just kept going. Faith No More was one of the bands that really stuffed things up by insisting that they followed 10 categories at once. This is why we have these billions of sub categories. But again, this is a legitimate sub category. Its just a matter of how legitimate. 44,500 to me says very legitimate, but if you disagree, then that's your opinion. Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 11:27, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- I just don't get how this is a genuine genre of music... other than the article and you, no one seems to be saying that. I'm all for articles on obscure genres that really exist, but like I said, that 44,500 number has no results I can find that actually deal with this as a genre of music [2], so it doesn't verify anything. And as a longtime trance/electronica fan, I've never heard of this as a genre. Astral Projection is a famous Goa group, maybe that's what you're thinking of?
- I just don't get keeping it on the theory that it might be a genre, despite no evidence. Rewrite it to be about the distrubtion company and that might change things, but unverifiable articles need to go. --W.marsh 16:26, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry, that's what I've always called it, for the past 15 years or so. I thought that google verified that. I guess there is a case to suggest that it means the same thing as new-age music. It depends on who you ask. Its the same deal with a lot of these music categories. Since 1990 or so, every band in existence wants to have their own unique sound. It started with alternative music, and then just kept going. Faith No More was one of the bands that really stuffed things up by insisting that they followed 10 categories at once. This is why we have these billions of sub categories. But again, this is a legitimate sub category. Its just a matter of how legitimate. 44,500 to me says very legitimate, but if you disagree, then that's your opinion. Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 11:27, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- redirect to New Age music. FWIW, I've been hosting an ambient and atmospheric music radio show for the last ten years, and I have heard the term, but always as referring to a minor sub-genre of new age music. It is, however, also the name of a well known music distribution company [3], which explains much of the high google count (as does the Turkish tourist yacht company which also uses this name). Grutness...wha? 06:56, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- But is the distribution company based on the type of music? They seem to be. From what I can gather, Astral Music is a type of trance music, similar to techno but with a new age feel. I for one have never heard of space music. But if the distribution group is well known, and use this name, then perhaps they deserve their own article too? Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 11:30, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
