Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Assassinations in fiction

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep - nomination withdrawn. Non-admin closure. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 21:32, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assassinations in fiction

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Unclear Purpose. The page would potentially contain thousands of entries. I asked for clarifications and clear criteria on the talk page 20 July, but have received none. Note that I am against blind deletions, as can be seen on my personal page. However, I think Assassinations in fiction is too pointless - unless someone can explain the page's purpose. Retracting AfD. Mlewan 11:53, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

• Assassinate this article pointless page ForeverDEAD 15:30, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Kill it. Mind-numbing list that doesn't even tell you how it happened. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.88.182.135 (talk) 16:13, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. "To assassinate" is "to murder (a prominent person)." If the person in a particular work is not prominent, then delete that work — but not the whole article. Assassination has been a recurring theme throughout history; its highlighting in the history of fiction is worthwhile. Nihil novi 17:29, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

I have deleted a number of items that dealt with murder and mayhem but not assassination, thus clarifying the subject of the article. Editors familiar with the remaining items may wish to delete those they feel to be inappropriate. Nihil novi 01:08, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't see why assassination fiction should be less worthy of its own article than historical fiction, political fiction or Spiritualism fiction. Nihil novi 06:07, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Spiritualism fiction is also a good deletion candidate I think. However historical fiction and political fiction attempt to describe how historic and political themes are handled in literature, and they do not try to be humongous lists, so they are valid. Both may need a clean up, however. Mlewan 08:14, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

• Delete; This is essentially Assassination in popular culture. Create a section in Assassination and discuss the notable films and books there. The use of assassinations as a plot device isn't a notable enough topic for a separate list. Masaruemoto 19:24, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps a criterion to consider is not so much popularity as quality. And I would rather see the "Animation" and "Video games" sections dropped. Nihil novi 02:41, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

• Delete. Trivial listcruft. RobJ1981 04:59, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. I nominated the page for deletion, but it has improved a lot since with a proper introduction. It still needs further improvement, but I do not think it is a deletion candidate. Notably the list needs to be trimmed, and the criteria for inclusion clearer. Mlewan 08:17, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

• Cool. That's a common side effect of AfDs - though one that must remain an unplanned fortuitous effect, as otherwise it'd lend itself to extremely undesirable "fix NOW or delete" extortion, and AfDs scaring away potential fixers is also common. But I digress. It'd be a good idea to make your change of heart clearer by adding strikethrough to your original nomination, like this, indicating retraction. --Kizor 13:39, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

• Keep due to efforts by myself and others to improve the article by adding reliable sources, images, and better opening statement indicating notability and also because the nominator has changed his mind as well, which by the way I find is comendable in the sense that Mlewan has proven to be open-minded and fair. :) Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 16:18, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete bunk page, also a bit crufty. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 21:42, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
• Comment I see the nominator has withdrawn the afd nomination--I think very wisely. DGG (talk) 23:12, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.