Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aspergum

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep, nomination and other delete opinions withdrawn due to article revision GRBerry 19:39, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Aspergum

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Perhaps if WP:INTERESTING were a notability criteria, but no. The article itself claims no notability (and started off as an advert), furthermore I can't seem to find any reference to it anywhere except for unreliable websites, and no media coverage whatsoever. I also couldn't find any notability criteria that applies specifically to medication or OTC meds, so apologies in advance if somehow this does deserve to stay and I just haven't seen the related policy.. Spazure 08:18, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Keep As the nominating individual, after reviewing the revised article, I withdraw my nomination for deletion, and now elect to keep it as well. Spazure 07:23, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Er, I nominated this like I always do -- what did I break?? See me on my talk page to avoid clutter. Spazure 08:21, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. The article "does not assert the importance or significance of its subject". --Malcolmxl5 10:05, 15 July 2007 (UTC) Change to keep. It's much, much better now. Well done. --Malcolmxl5 17:32, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong keep, I've expanded and referenced it. Its notability lies in its role in the recognition of aspirin's usefulness as an antithrombotic agent. Gordonofcartoon 12:50, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 10:58, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Great, but what if the pain is in your jaw? ~ Infrangible 13:11, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
And does it lose its analgesic effect on the bedpost overnight? Gordonofcartoon 15:00, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - The notability criteria that applies to medication and everything else on Wikipedia is Wikipedia:Notability. Aspergum has received enough coverage in independent reliable sources so that a verifiable artice can be written on the topic. Thus, keep. -- Jreferee (Talk) 16:02, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep The product has been on the market for decades, and may even have lost its trademark by now. It's (a) an effective method of treating sore throat pain in that its design keeps the analgesic in the mouth and throat; (b) a more sensible alternative than antibiotics for treatment of minor throat discomfort; and (c) the ultimate in "keep out of reach of children" products, with each piece of chewing gum containing a dose of aspirin. And yes, Gordon, it does lose its analgesic effect on the bedpost overnight :) If that's not a part of the warning label, it should be. Maybe there's no media coverage, but how often is Tylenol in the news these days? Mandsford 16:16, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong keep, has been rewritten and now passes WP:RS and WP:V. Ten Pound Hammer • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 16:21, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Agree with Jreferee. Tim Q. Wells 17:34, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Encyclopedic and well written article with good refrences, satisfies WP:N and WP:A. Edison 20:54, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Check markY Keep clearly an encyclopedic topic that passes WP:Notability and WP:V. VanTucky (talk) 21:42, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge I don't see how it wouldn't serve better as merged with the other analegic chewing gums. NobutoraTakeda 21:51, 15 July 2007 (UTC) This user has been banned and !vote has been stricken. [1]
  • Keep Why not merge all the wine articles together? --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 02:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, rename. The usual guideline at WikiProject Drugs is to headword the generic name and create redirects for brandnames, which would seem to support renaming it as something along the lines of 'aspirin-based chewing gum' and merging in any other aspirin-based chewing gums (none of which appear to exist currently), with appropriate redirects. It might be worth noting that, per Martindale, Aspergum as a brandname doesn't appear to be used outside the USA & Canada. Espresso Addict 02:58, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Both as a brand name and a generic, it crops up on a few UK NHS documents: see Google. Never actually seen it here, though. Gordonofcartoon 03:52, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Er, the top few hits at least appear to be a list of drugs NOT to be prescribed within the NHS. Espresso Addict 05:15, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Ah - should have explained. They do exist here; these lists are the so-called "Black List" that was introduced way back to save the NHS money by banning prescription of brand-name drugs in favour of generics. Gordonofcartoon 09:54, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Ok; I wonder why it's not listed as a UK brand in Martindale? I do still think it might be better moved to a generic title, but I seem to be in a minority here... Espresso Addict 20:03, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.