Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashlea Evans

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep --Ichiro 21:24, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ashlea Evans

Reality TV contestant that is not notable enough. She left the show after about two weeks, Big Brother fans barely remember her, she is overshadwoed by other contestants who were more notable but don't have thier own articles, etc. Chicbicyclist 21:13, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. It's important to present the objective truth on these people. -- JJay 23:04, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

• Comment. What objective truth? That they are not notable enough? A couple other constants such as Eric and Maggie, and especially Ivette had a far-reaching effect on the show and are alot more well-known by casual tv viewers than Ashlea. The only notable thing Ashlea ever did was being on the show with Janelle.Chicbicyclist 06:01, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

• To me they are all the same since I have never seen any of these shows. I therefore vote keep for all reality contestants. -- JJay 06:47, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - IIRC there's some guideline about who is eligible for articles and I think they pretty well have to either win the contest or become notable in their own right outside the series. Remember these are just game show contestants when all is said and done; would you want to see articles done on everyone who ever appeared on Jeopardy? 23skidoo 15:44, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

• I have no problem with articles on game show contestants. Big Brother's ratings average 8-9 million per week. Compare that with published authors who are eligible for an article according to guidelines with book sales above 5,000. Seems like a double standard to me. -- JJay 15:53, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film and TV-related deletions.
• Keep for being on a major hit show. Reality contestants on a show aren't the same as Jeopardy, as they are "characters" on a show, with a closer analogy to an actor of a hit TV show (e.g. for a hit sitcom or drama we might have articles on the character and the actor, in reality TV, the two are one). Generally, Jeopardy contestants have no national mainstream published sources of information about the lives of the contestants outside of the show, and little independent stuff about the show. In cases where a Jeopardy contestant receives sufficiently high levels of mainstream media coverage, relating to their show, and life outside the show, they may well qualify for a bio article. People do follow, in the press, the lives of these reality contestants, like it or not. Finally, I suggest more recent precedent is to keep an article like this (though not consistently). But, it probably would be good to discuss at WP:BIO some mention of reality show contestants. --Rob 16:55, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep If Debb Eaton can have a wiki article, then so should Ashlea. You can't just go around and start randomly marking articles for deletion like this. It's ridiculous. Jtrost 18:41, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

• Comment That same argument has been used to justify the keeping of other very obscure reality conteststants, and in fact, the page for Ashlea Evans has been used the same way you used Debb Eaton. This is what prompted me to put it up for deletion. I might have to put the article for Debb Eaton up for deletion, too.Chicbicyclist 21:45, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

• Comment It is a bit strange that Micheal Donellan who appears on the same debate page as Ashlea is getting more delete votes than her. Micheal is alot more accomplished(being a well-established artist and all), stayed longer in the house and had a love affair with Janelle, arguably one of the most popular contestant on Big Brother USA, ever.Chicbicyclist 21:45, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

• Keep as notable person on very popular (e.g. known to a large number of people) show. "ashley evans big brother" gets >16,000 Google hits (apparently the Ashlea spelling is not known to many people). Turnstep 14:22, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.