Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ase Card

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete --JForget 02:04, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ase Card

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Non-notable rapper. No secondary sources listed; only 1600 ghits, of which few are about the rapper. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 02:56, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

  • Speedy delete recreation of previously deleted material. скоморохъ 02:57, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
    • Comment: CSD G4 doesn't apply to articles that have been deleted under CSD. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 02:59, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete - only mention by a source and that is only trivial mention, already speedied as mentioned earlier. Artist hasn't released an album yet or signed to a label. Fails all 12 of Wikipedia:Notability (music). Optigan13 (talk) 03:04, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
    Also conflict of interest as end of article states "...and melodic ballad, “Not Like This”, featuring Blaze Trackz.", which is username of article creator. Optigan13 (talk) 03:13, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  • OPPOSITION: I AM NOT ASE CARD. It is a guy 4rom around my town, so i think i should be free to write an article about him, shouldn't I? There is credible information on this page of Ase Card being in a nationwide MTV2 Dew Circuit Contest in the group B.A.R.S. as well as his popularity among hip hop lovers in the Bay Area, Califoria. Ase Card also does have a record deal, although not major, he is signed under Young Black Brotha Recordings, which constitutes this page to remain on Wikipedia. Mentioned in the article is a future release, but he does have past releases under indie label Non Stop Recordings, his own company which is legitimized as a REAL COMPANY. This page is 100% percent true and I request this possible deletion be removed. Thank you. - Blaze Trackz —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blazetrackz (talk • contribs) 03:21, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I produced one of Ase Card's Tracks, but does that void me from writing an article about a rapper I know, it shouldn't. I am not related to him in any way, but yeah, I love his music. I'm a fan. So yes, I wish to, and to continue to write an article about him with out any more interruptions or attempts of deletion if possible. -Blaze Trackz—Preceding unsigned comment added by Blazetrackz (talk • contribs) 03:26, March 3, 2008
  • After reviewing the criteria, This article doesn't call for a speedy deletion. There have been prior releases for this artist and checking the sources will prove this rapper is signed to a label that has enough clout in the music industry to have has produced songs for snoop dogg and tupac (when he was living), so all in all, this article need not be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blazetrackz (talk • contribs) 03:38, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete I speedied it earlier, as the page doesn't assert notability. Underground teenage rapper, no sources, signed to a non-notable minor label. The article says that he is "seeking a major deal" and that his "debut album, “Welcome 2 Me”, is slated for release in the summer of 2008". That about says it all. Note that Blaze Trackz also created the article Acecard, which has since been deleted. faithless (speak) 03:28, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. No reliable secondary sources; just fan sites and the second reference links to a search engine. Renee (talk) 03:32, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong Delete Non notable rapper with no tours or notable label. Undeath (talk) 04:25, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Of course "Undead Warrior" want thie page deleted. They're page clearly states they don't like hip hop and only fancy death metal. the Ase Card page is perfectly fine and needs to remain on the site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blazetrackz (talk • contribs) 04:13, March 3, 2008
  • Ase Card is on YBB, which is a notable independent record label in NORTHERN CALIFORNIA.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.62.109.140 (talk • contribs) 04:28, March 3, 2008
    • I have not found any assertation of notability towards YBB. Ase Card still fails WP:MUSIC. Undeath (talk) 04:53, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

SEARCH YOUNG BLACK BROTHA RECORDS and KHAYREE SHAHEED, THE OWNER OF THE LABEL, and you will SEE this label is a credible LABEL and THERE IS NO NEED FOR DELETION. ASE CARD has NOT failed WP:MUSIC criteria and this page deserves to remain on the site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blazetrackz (talk • contribs) 04:58, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

UNDER the guidelines, Ase Card can NOT be deleted unless he fails under CRITERION A7, and hasn't. WP:MUSIC states that a mere claim of significance, even if contested, may avoid speedy deletion under A7, which I have claimed Ase Card retains notoriety, with recognition of him, under bars, on MTV2 and MTV2.com. Also, his label is noted as a premiere laabel in the bay area, Calif., which constitutes for a cease in potential deletion as soon as possible.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Blazetrackz (talk • contribs) 05:05, March 3, 2008
This is not speedy deletion. And please STOP SCREAMING. Thanks. —Kurykh 05:06, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
The website shows that there are 6 bands signed at the moment. None of them are notable. They don't tour, they don't make big interviews etc... The label and the bands are non notable. Undeath (talk) 05:35, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete: Non notable artist. --Esanchez(Talk 2 me or Sign here) 05:39, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. Non-notable artist. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:47, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete, fails WP:MUSIC, nn artist. Resolute 06:00, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Can't Delete fast enough. Grsz11 (talk) 06:52, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete vain vanity in vain. And Blazetrackz, be quiet, please. JuJube (talk) 08:24, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:MUSIC, also self-admitted WP:COI case (see above) Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 10:53, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Procedural issues: I object to the deletion of a comment from this discussion, labelled "vandalism" when it was not, although it was improperly formatted. I object to the moving of a comment from where it was clearly, in my opinion, a reply to the comment immediately above it, to another location on this page (although again it was improperly formatted). --Coppertwig (talk) 13:25, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Thank you. That's fine. :-) --Coppertwig (talk) 03:07, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.