Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Art of Venezuela

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep (closed by non-admin). RMHED (talk) 19:51, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Art of Venezuela

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Does not assert notability. No external/third party links, and no references or citations. There are other articles about the Venezuelan artists and museums. This fails WP:NOTABILITY so Delete. Undeath (talk) 18:04, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Weak keep. I know this is WP:WAX, but to have Art of the United Kingdom and not have this would be WP:BIAS against a lesser developed country. Really, really needs citations though. If none can be found, I don't object to a delete.--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 00:31, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep per HisSpaceResearch. Article needs work, and is at present underdeveloped, but it does have a list of artists which is a start. In a Venezuelan encyclopedia, I would expect the article on "Art" to contain information on Venzuelan art, and I would expect most encyclopedias to have information on "art" in the article on "Venezuela", so the topic is encyclopedic enough. Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:26, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Although I must comment that it may not be necessary to have such an article for every country in the world. Art of Tuvalu, for example, would be unlikely to be useful.--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 13:38, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep. Topic is eminently encyclopedic, and does not fail notability. AFD is not for article cleanup. Quale (talk) 17:22, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Very reluctant delete without prejudice against re-creation if reliable sources can be found. I agree that having an article on art in the UK and not on art in Venezuela would demonstrate bias. However, if the reason is a lack of reliable sources on art in Venezuela, then it would demonstrate bias by art critics, art historians, etc., not by Wikipedia. Wikipedia cannot contain information beyond what is available in reliable sources, so it is forced to reflect those sources' biases. Reliable sources on art in Venezuela probably exist and I hope that someone more knowledgeable than I am finds them. However, I will not assume that they exist.
Furthermore, I reluctantly have to conclude that the current article is unsalvageable. It reads like promotional copy for tourists rather than like an encyclopedia article. The list of artists at the bottom of the article is unnecessary as List of Venezuelan artists already exists. If reliable sources are found, it would be better to rewrite the article from scratch rather than to attempt to work with the existing text. --FreeKresge (talk) 18:57, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep and expand. Other nations have similar articles. The topic is notable. Andrzej Kmicic (talk) 06:14, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.