Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arnold Jack Rosenthal (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. Sandstein 22:43, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Arnold Jack Rosenthal

Arnold Jack Rosenthal (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Kept once before but we've become a lot firmer since then on the issue of negative biographies of living individuals of questionable notability. This is a minor official and failed candidate for ore major office, and without the negative stuff we'd not think twice about removing it. Guy (Help!) 17:01, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

• comment - Does WP:BLP get satisfied simply with a list of sources at the bottom of the article? When I've included contentious material in articles, I try to footnote every contentious statement. Otherwise, how the hey can another editor verify that my work is safe? AllGloryToTheHypnotoad 17:40, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per Guy. Stifle (talk) 19:51, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete One of the city commissioners in a small city. Apparently known for doing very little in office. The negative material was not related to his political career--just an ordinary relatively minor financial fraud. 20:22, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

• Comment Small city, but largest city in a whole region -- central Louisiana. Also a Jewish person in elected office Billy Hathorn

• Keep. This was a citywide commissioner position, not from a single-member district.Billy Hathorn 15:00, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

• So not a national or state office then. Guy (Help!) 15:47, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

• Delete. Third in a senatorial primary? 429 votes in a mayoral election in a city of 46000? Definitely not notable. Phil Bridger 10:22, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
• Keep -- notable: see refs at end of article. Yes the article has unreferenced material but that's no reason to throw away the entire article -- just the unreferenced bits. --A. B. ^(talk) 06:21, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

• I've seen the refs. Nothing but local newspaper reports and court and prison records. These don't establish notability. Phil Bridger 20:09, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

• Keep A lesser, but no less interesting political figure from Louisiana. Very little information on Jewish politicos in Louisiana can be found online. DJ Jones74 23:37, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

• Have you read our sourcing guidelines? Guy (Help!) 18:37, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
• Comment What has being Jewish got to do with his notability? This article says that he was "among a handful of Jews who served in public office in central Louisiana in the second half of the 20th century". The article on Alexandria, Louisiana says that it has "a small Jewish community". So it's to be expected that a handful of Jews will be elected to public office. Phil Bridger 19:24, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Louisiana-related deletions. -- A. B. ^(talk) 06:23, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletions. -- A. B. ^(talk) 06:26, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

"*Keep - maybe it's a little long, but IMO notable. Tiptopper 23:50, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per nom--Doc^g 11:46, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per guy. Sources fail to establish notability. —dustmite 19:39, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Wikipedia is not a publisher, and this information has not been synthesized and published by a reliable author - undoubtedly because the subject is not notable enough for a full-length study. Pastordavid 20:44, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

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