Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Archiguille

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep, a multitude of references in reliable sources have been added to the article to establish notability. This addresses the concerns of those who argued for deletion who all said that reliable sources were required. Davewild (talk) 11:50, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Archiguille

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Where to start... this article was created as an autobiography or by someone who copied the biography section of http:www.archiguille.com. It's full of peacock words and glowing praise, like "greatest painter of his generation" and "a cult figure on the Montmartre". (His web site calls Barbara Bush and other owners "avid groupies", although that term isn't in our article.) Unfortunately, there's precious little available to back up these claims – 38 Google hits seem a little low for someone who counts Barbara Bush as an avid groupie. Even The Times reference at the bottom is missing in action from Google. I'd expect books and magazine articles and the like, lots of them for such a famous cult figure.

Unless more reliable sources are found, the article should be deleted, as it fails WP:BIO. KrakatoaKatie 23:39, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletions. – David Eppstein (talk) 00:41, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
• Delete If the grandiose claims can't be verified by reliable sources, then this fails notability. Otherwise, I'm starting an article on myself, the Pope's favourite artist. freshacconcispeaktome 01:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
• Delete per above. I have thought about this for a day and I think the grandiose claims make verifiability even more important than weaker claims might make it. House of Scandal (talk) 21:56, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep. The article needs a thorough rewrite, but the artist is an honorary member of the Russian Academy of Arts: [1]. "Honorary members can be elected among outstanding figures of world culture and arts, as well as those who by their active charitable activity and sponsorship greatly contributed to the development of the Academy and Russian culture in general." ([2])--Ethicoaestheticist (talk) 22:00, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
• Comment He also seems to have a walk-on part in accounts of the assassination of Jean de Broglie: [3], [4]. That doesn't necessarily make him notable, but it is intriguing.--Ethicoaestheticist (talk) 22:42, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
• Delete - unless some substantial WP:BIO related references are put up. If his roll at the Russian Academy of Arts was "active charitable activity and sponsorship greatly contributed to the development of the Academy and Russian culture in general", then he is not a notable artist, he is just a contributer with deep pockets (self nomination). All other references dead end so far. Noatable artist or well padded resume? Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 02:25, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

• You seem to have inadvertently missed out the first part of the Russian Academy of Arts notice, which reads in full "Honorary members can be elected among outstanding figures of world culture and arts, as well as those who by their active charitable activity and sponsorship greatly contributed to the development of the Academy and Russian culture in general." He is shown as an honorary member with the profession of artist.[5] Ty 01:53, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

• Strong keep Notability is established by sources, of which a great many are listed in the article. There is an objection that there is a dearth of them on the internet, but this is not a requirement: print sources are quite acceptable. However, there are online sources. One is another page from the Russian Academy of Arts,[6] which, amongst other things, states: Sixty paintings by the noted artist, Honorary Member of the Russian Academy of Arts Augustin Francois Guille dit Archiguille will be presented to the public by the Embassy of Switzerland, Russian-Swiss Commerce Chamber and the Russian Academy of Arts in Tsereteli Art Gallery (19 Prechistenka str., Moscow) on November 8, 2007 and His paintings ... can be seen in museums of modern art in New York, Chicago, Houston, Brussels, Madrid, Paris, Tokyo as well as in art numerous galleries. Swissenterprise.com has a biography.[7] La Grande Motte tourism office bills him as a guest of honor.[8] Translation[9] 16 of his works have been sold at auction.[10] Ty 02:08, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.