Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aqeel Islam

This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was DELETE. Clearly all the keeps are the same person, so I'm only counting it once. They appear to have some genuine article to write here, but the consensus is against it remaining, owing largely to weak sources and poor verifiability. I would think, then, that this AfD need not necessarily preclude a rewritten article being created which is properly sourced. -Splash^talk 20:01, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Aqeel Islam

This article is a hoax. There is no such thing as Aqeel Islam. The pages Aqeeli, Aqeelah, and the image Aleeqahlogo.jpg refering to it should also be deleted. Yodakii 11:40:25, 2005-09-06 (UTC)

• Delete. Apparently an attempt to revive Mu'tazili, which clearly does exist, but there are no Google hits for the name or the supposèd founder and the single external link is about Mu'tazili rather than Aqeel. So no proof that this revival exists neither in the article nor elsewhere. Plus the list of 'figures' of Aqeel is apparently mostly a list of figures of Mu'tazili, with the exception of the founder - they're certainly long dead and nothing to do with the modern 'revival'. Five of the six tenets of Aqeel are lifted directly from the five tenets of Mu'tazili. Reads rather like a vanity page, only instead of being an up-and-coming politician, singer or programmer we've got an up-and-coming Islamic revivalist scholar. Last Malthusian 13:22, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. Ok first of all i myself am a aqeelah and convereted to the secret organization a while back. I dont know why just because it is not commercialized it would make it a hoax. Aqeelah Islam is almost exactly alike to Mu'tazili because it is a modern version of it. It kept alot of its tradition, almost exactly. Our headquarters are located in NY and in CA. 68.8.70.214 22:38, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. The random believer above of me is right, Aqeeli Islam is definitly not a joke, it is not successful or even big, it is made up of only 7 disciples in each state making only 350 disciples in all. If the article is kept i will promise to add more information on the division and i will add as much facts as i can. I will look up the "6" tenets as soon as possible from the local Imam in the Aqeeli Islam conference house near my home. The article may be a little unbelieveble, but i will try to add as much facts as possible later on. And i just wanted to make one correction on the random believer above me, the New York HQ is being sold so i think they moved to someplace else, i forgot the name of the city right now. Ok well last words, keep believing no matter the criticsim of others. RuthCoronado 6:43, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Delete.

• The anonymous user (apparently from 68.8.70.214) and RuthCoronado seem to be the same user.
• This user has already vandalized an article with false information. The "Aqeeli" article seems be to just another attempt at messing around with the wiki. Keep this up and you may get banned.
• The hoax itself isn't done very well. One give-away is the Arabic name for "Aqeel Islam" according to the article is "al-'iraqi" which translates as "The Iraqi".
• Wikipedia is an encyclopia, and its not appropriate for every one with a private club or "secret organisation" to be listed here.
• There is no proof that this organisation exists.
  --Yodakii 04:15:29, 2005-09-09 (UTC)

Keep The paul pierce article i edited was all facts, he was stabbed by the Made Men crew and was threatened by Ray Benzino. The arabic name i got is from a website that translated Aqeeli into that arabic name. Maybe somebody can change it or something. And the reason that the anonymous user and i seem like the same user is because probably he/she probably uses the local library computer or the computers down by the San Diego computer shop. I found ut that he/she lives in San Diego like me. --RuthCoronado 015:38:40, 2005-09-09 (UTC)

ok. maybe I was too harsh. If you want to contribute to wikipedia, provide information that can verified, and don't use sockpuppets. If you can't find any way of verifying what you are writing besides your own statements here, then it should be removed. --Yodakii 03:10:13, 2005-09-10 (UTC)

Sorry if this isnt enough information from the internet. I found a page from recommended by the imam in the Aqeelah HQ, i dont know if this is enough info. I will try to find more sites or things on the division. --RuthCoronado 17:30, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

• Delete since nothing shows notability. Ruth, your attempts to create this are fine but because of the way wikipedia operates you are going to need to find stronger sources. I know a bunch about Scott Newman's (Paul Newman's son) college days... but I know it from what my father told me... and while I trust my father I know that I cannot add this stuff to an encyclopedia without getting some sources on it. I recommend that you keep a copy of this page as a sub-user page so it ges preserved and edit it... if you find good sources (from some notable media and not just a site created on Geocities) then feel free to recreate and I'll probably support it. However, as it stands now nothingshows that this is real or notable. I think it'd make for an interesting article if you could prove it... but until then I'll have to stick by my interpretation of wikipedia policy. gren グレン 19:05, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

This is really hard, i want it to stay on wikipedia but because of its secrecy and low success, not many write about the organization. We have been to many peace rallys and i have many pictures of the disciples in my computer, but there is no (or atleast one i can find) website containing info on it. Can't we just put it up for "clean up" and during that period i will desperatly try to find info of it on the internet or atleast get a reliable resource? I really need help on this one. RuthCoronado 02:07, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Can someone tell me if the arabic word translates to "Aqeel". Ruthcoronado 02:20, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

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