Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Antonio Inoki versus Renzo Gracie

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. --Coredesat 07:10, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Antonio Inoki versus Renzo Gracie

Antonio Inoki versus Renzo Gracie (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

I originally proded the article because I don't think one fight at one event really is that notable. Still don't even though the author made a case for it on my discussion page. He suggested a possible merge which I think is the best option. Peter Rehse 03:22, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

I have appended the comments: I removed your tag for deletion, as I believe the fight is notable enough to include. The Gracie family has always been opposed to the work tradition in professional wrestling, so the fact that a Gracie fought in a work is notable. I also added one source (another is needed to verify that, in fact, the fight was a work).

I do agree that the article should probably be merged into Antonio Inoki's own page, and into Renzo Gracie's own page, with the other fights on the card being incorporated into perhaps a new Inoki Bom-Ba-Ye page, or into the pages of the individual participants of them. Unfortunately, I don't know how to do this, being primarily a wikipedia user rather than editor (hence my lack of account).

  • Comment: Was Inoki vs. Gracie that notable? Not really. Was Inoki Bom-ba-ye, the TV special this fight was a part of? Yes. This event began the tradition of combat sport supercards airing on Japanese television on New Years Eve, which every year is the biggest night for TV viewership in the country. Inoki Bom-ba-ye lasted for three years, but similar events by PRIDE and K-1 continue the tradition, which still garners at least 15% share of televisions turned on that night. hateless 04:00, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete this type of article is more appropriate for wikinews. Per, WP:NOT, "The fact that someone or something has been in the news for a brief period of time does not automatically justify an encyclopedia article.". I think this qualifies as exactly that. Corpx 04:58, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. A single professional wrestling match is not notable. --Charlene 10:53, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 15:45, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep or merge, because of notable participants, i.e. a legendary mixed martial artists versus a legendary wrestler. --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 15:56, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete as per Charlene's comment, and also that a lot of the article is just a list of the event itself - which should be moved to its own page. --SteelersFan UK06 15:36, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, info could be included on both of the participants' respective articles. A separate article on one match? Definitely not needed. Nikki311 20:57, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete I am perplexed as to why this has a separate article? Surely a mention on the respective wrestler bios is enough. Darrenhusted 22:10, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, I've never seen a Triple H versus Shawn Michaels page or The Undertaker versus Kane page, so why have this? Davnel03 20:33, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletions.Peter Rehse 07:20, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.