Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ann Nicole Nelson
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Sandstein 07:29, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Ann Nicole Nelson
Tragic victim of 9/11 attacks; however, otherwise NOT notable (as per WP:NOT). Should be deleted. Pugnacious 16:41, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Delete - per nom. I'd suggest the deleting admin exercise an extra degree of gentleness in this one, however. The creating editor of this sort of thing frequently tends to be either a friend or family member trying to create a memorial in the wrong place. Bullzeye (Ring for Service) 17:01, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
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- Comment If they cared that much, they'd pay for their own web site to honor her. A Wikipedia page is worth what you pay for it. MarkBul 17:07, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- Comment Maybe so, but it never hurts to exercise a degree of understanding alongside the firmness. From my experience when these people show up it's the equivalent of getting their dead kid/parent/friend's face airbrushed onto 100 t-shirts and giving them to everyone they know. Memorial through mass, if you will. Bullzeye (Ring for Service) 17:47, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- Comment I would guess that the creator of this article created it for two reaons: because very few North Dakotans were 9/11 victims and because Minot State University thought this woman notable enough to rename an auditorium after her. I actually don't think we're talking about a family member or a friend memorializing Nelson here. --MatthewUND(talk) 20:45, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NOT#NEWS and not memorial Corpx 17:11, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. I found the page useful and informative. Voyager640 17:28, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- WP:ITSUSEFUL isn't a good reason to keep a page. Unless this lady is notable for something aside from being a 9/11 victim, she doesn't warrant a Wikipedia page per "Wikipedia is not a memorial" guideline in What Wikipedia is not. NeoChaosX (talk, walk) 18:26, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete Sorry, not notable other than as a victim, as stated above. Flyguy649 talk contribs 18:54, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- Comment Surely there would have been a better time of the year to put this up for AfD? -- MatthewUND (talk) 19:42, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think there's any policy on it, but I personally believe Wikipedia shouldn't cease to function in its normal capacity at any point - even on or around the anniversaries of tragedies, and even when said tragedies are being discussed in this kind of manner. AllynJ (talk | contribs) 20:12, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- Comment - concur with AllynJ in the STRONGEST possible terms. Are you seriously suggesting we should not delete an unacceptable article because it happens to get nominated at the wrong time of year? Surely you're kidding. Bullzeye (Ring for Service) 23:00, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- Comment Obviously that's not what I'm suggesting and I never said that. This article should be deleted and likely will be deleted. I'm simply saying that, since the article has been around for quite a while, I just think it's a little sad to see the AfD pop up on the anniversary. I don't see what harm it would have done to wait a week or two before putting this up for AfD. --MatthewUND(talk) 23:19, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. Doesn't have any notability beyond the tragic circumstances involved. Perhaps add the sentence on the auditorium being renamed for her at Minot State University should be added to said page, though. AllynJ (talk | contribs) 20:12, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- Merge with Minot State. Possible merge with Cantor Fitzgerald, too. UTAFA 20:53, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
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- I would like to apologize to MatthewUND. Matt has a point about the timing of the AFD. The date thing never hit me, otherwise I certainly could have waited a coupla weeks. It makes no sense to withdraw the AFD now given its merits (I know no one has suggested that anyway), but I understand where Matthew, a North Dakotan, is coming from, and I assure him it was not any "flyover" disregard or disrespect to Ms. Nelson or her family. Pugnacious 11:16, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for your comment, Pugnacious. You certainly don't have to apologize to me...I didn't know Ms. Nelson. I just thought it was a little sad to see this come up right now...but I realize you simply hadn't thought of the timing here. For what it's worth, I support the deletion of this article. Thanks again for your response. --MatthewUND(talk) 22:37, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
- I would like to apologize to MatthewUND. Matt has a point about the timing of the AFD. The date thing never hit me, otherwise I certainly could have waited a coupla weeks. It makes no sense to withdraw the AFD now given its merits (I know no one has suggested that anyway), but I understand where Matthew, a North Dakotan, is coming from, and I assure him it was not any "flyover" disregard or disrespect to Ms. Nelson or her family. Pugnacious 11:16, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete as a very non-notable individual aside from 9/11--JForget 23:30, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. Clear violation of WP:NOT. - JamesTeterenko 04:34, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
