Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Angelo Plessas

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was DELETE. -Splash - tk 16:46, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

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Not notable visual artist. Sources lacking. Bus stop 14:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC) Not notable visual artist. Sources lacking.

• Delete per nom. No sources. Website is painful and difficult to navigate and blogs are not credible sources. �The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vaniac (talk � contribs) 16:38, 2 April 2007 (UTC).
• Delete per nom. - Aagtbdfoua 13:38, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

• Keep Important visual artist with partecipations in international shows. If envy was a virtue, Bus stop would be a King.

Comment: What makes you think I am envious? Bus stop 18:23, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Comment Sorry to say so but it's very clear. You are an artist and you detest that more succesfull people like Plessas and Manetas get attention. �The preceding unsigned comment was added by AlainLa (talk � contribs) 19:24, 7 April 2007 (UTC).

Comment: Yes, I am an artist. So what? You haven't the foggiest idea whether I am envious or not. And you haven't the foggiest idea whether I am more or less successful than the two names you mention. The simple, and relevant, fact is that Wikipedia has standards. You are certainly permitted to create articles. But you have to understand that article deletion is also a perfectly legitimate function on Wikipedia. I nominated this article for deletion not because of envy, but because I see little indication that the world has taken this artist seriously. The sources cited do not indicate that critical notice was taken of this person as an artist. And, in reading the article, I really don't see anything interesting being discussed. I see only the assertion that this artist is important. I see little of substance in the article. And the sources consist of a personal web site, a blog, and examples of the artist's Internet art. I like it. But aesthetic decisions do not really have bearing whether or not an article should exist on Wikipedia for an artist. Bus stop 19:55, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Comment: Well, AlainLa is wrong to assume that Bus stop is a frustrated artist. Apparently, he is simply misinformed at the subjects he is so passionately against. The fact that Angelo Plessas is a known artist is proved by the fact that he exhibited at the Valencia Biennial together with really well known artists and in many other exhibitions. About Manetas, his long carieer makes ridiculous even to discuss his relevance. About Neen, is evindent that Bus can't grasp the artistic point and he preferes to delete what he doesn't get. But I see that he has interesting contributions to cinetic art etc an art that is actually very close to Neen. Would't be better to try understand than destroy dear Bus stop? Did you ever visited www.neen.org? Did you ever checked the work of the artists you are deleting? Door64 16:05, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Comment: Neen.org is a beautiful web site. I grant you that. But it doesn't really support the inclusion of these articles, does it? Bus stop 01:50, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Comment: Would you post a link to your paintings so we can see them? Curious.. Whoever deletes others should at least be a valid artist hmself.. Fran1980 21:02, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Comment: Fran1980 -- How do you define "valid artist?" Bus stop 04:46, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Comment: Well, it would be enough for you to show us that you have made some paintings and maybe an exhibition somewhere (or I am asking too much?) Fran1980 01:29, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Comment. Please note: Bus stop has not "deleted" any articles. He has participated in discussions, voiced his opinion and taken part in an important aspect of Wikipedia. Ultimately, the decision to delete is an administrator's to make based on proposed deletion discussions as per WP:AFD. Please do not engage in personal attacks. Read WP:ATTACK. Thank you. Freshacconci 13:35, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete, limited assertion of notability. While there's plenty of external links, the page as it is written doesn't really indicate anything major from the artist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sigma 7 (talk • contribs)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.