Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Angelica Bella (2nd nomination)

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The result was keep. --PeaceNT (talk) 14:47, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Angelica Bella

Angelica Bella (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View log)

Pornstar with no significant coverage and who doesn't seem to pass WP:PORNBIO. Epbr123 (talk) 00:17, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Nomination withdrawn per sources found by Vinh1313. Epbr123 (talk) 08:13, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

• Delete. Non-notable porn actress. KleenupKrew (talk) 11:32, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 12:03, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
• Keep, she gets 381000 google hits.--Berig (talk) 12:31, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
  • WP:GHITS is not a valid test of notability, especially in porn where Google hits can be easily inflated and they often are. The quality of the sources counts more than volume. • Gene93k (talk) 15:24, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
• Comment Subject doesn't appear to have one any awards per WP:PORNBIO. WilliamH (talk) 17:01, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
• Weak delete. This actress, though she has appeared in many movies, has not won any major awards in the adult movie industry and has not many any unique contributions to a specific part of adult filming. Those are just a few of the basic requirements that this article does not pass from WP:PORNBIO. However, the article, in itself, in somewhat well written and the actress in question has a listing at the IMDB webpage and she also has her own official website. Those are not enough to warrant its own page, but it is enough to make me think that she could become notable in the future. Razorflame 17:23, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
• Delete. Fails WP:BIO. Trivial WP:RS coverage found (2 Italian articles about her "Erotika 2005" appearance). No awards/nominations for WP:PORNBIO. • Gene93k (talk) 17:28, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Striking vote per new information from Vinh1313. I can't find RS to verify the Hot D'Or win, but I'll keep looking. • Gene93k (talk) 03:54, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
• Comment She won the Best European Actress award at the 1993 Hot D'Or[1] but I can't find any RS coverage of it in English. We're probably going to keep running into this problem with the European stars of yesteryears. Vinh1313 (talk) 23:18, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
  • I've done an extensive web search but I can't find a reliable source for the award. It's a shame, as it is likely she did win the award, but we can't really set a precedent by keeping an article based on unsourced info. Epbr123 (talk) 15:24, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
    • Without any references for the award, we are pretty much back at square one on this article. Razorflame 15:31, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
• Keep She was one of the top stars in italian porn back in the 90s along with Moana Pozzi and Cicciolina. I can't read italian but Delta Di Venere, the main trade journal of italian porn, has a spotlight biography of her. She is also written about in some book about the italian porn industry [2]. Those along with the Italian newspaper article about her and Erotika 2005[3] convinces me that she's notable under the general criteria, award or no award. Vinh1313 (talk) 22:36, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

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