Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Angela Constance

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus, therefore Angela will join Jermaine Dupri here on Wikipedia. Money ain't a Thang! - CrazyRussian talk/email 17:30, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Angela Constance

Defeated candidate who holds only local public office, fails WP:N. See Ann Garrett and Ben Abbotts for AfDs on losing candidates in more recent by-election (where Abbotts also came significantly close). Mtiedemann 13:21, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

• Do not delete - useful information of a leading Scottish Nationalist Politician. often those who unsuccessfully fight by elections are those who have a high profile (eg Tony Blair was an unsuccessful By election candidate). Suggest that those from Scotland or interested in Scottish politics are more likely to see the importance of this information.--Sjharte 13:33, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • While there certainly seems to be some merit to the notion that "often those who unsuccessfully fight by elections are those who have a high profile", I really fail to see any of the alleged "useful information" contained within this stub. If you can expand this article to include said "useful information" (which I can't seem to find in existance), I would be willing to support keeping it. --Vengeful Cynic 15:04, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - Per nom. --circuitloss 14:36, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. If you can cite evidence that she does have a high profile, she can stay, otherwise she goes. --David Mestel^(Talk) 15:00, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. --Vengeful Cynic 15:04, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Surely importance is in the eye of the beholder. All of those advocating deletion do not appear to be from Scotland or exhibit an interest in Scottish politics. Those who are and so will find it useful to have a Wikipedia resource that includes individuals such as Angela Constance. Although I am not a supporter of her party I do know that she is standing for one of their target seats (Livingston) at next year's Scottish Parliament elections. Keeping this entry will, for example, allow ot to be sued as a link when discussing the election process in that constituency.--Sjharte 15:17, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep against nom Antares33712 16:00, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
• WP:N is not policy. Keep as this person is clearly notable within the context of Scottish politics. Vizjim 16:04, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Not mentioned in the Independent once in the last two years. Dr Zak 18:05, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
• Weak delete. She is more than a nobody, but she is certainly not clearly notable in any sense of the word. For example, the article currently says, quite truthfully, that while she has failed to win a place in the British parliament, she will have a shot at getting a place in the Scottish parliament in 2007; what it does not say is that she is not particularly likely to succeed (see this article in the Scotsman, which is mostly about some rather more prominent candidates, but does discuss her chances briefly in the final paragraph). — Haeleth Talk 18:37, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete -- disclaimer, IANAEOSP (I am not an expert on Scottish politics), but it appears that the person holds an office on a council of a county/city/local government subdivision. That seems not-notable to me, and certainly "party spokesperson for children services and lifelong learning" and "elected President of Glasgow University Students' Representative Council" don't add much either. An American equivalent could be someone serving a first term on a 26 member county commission board who also is vice president of the library fundraising council. -- MrDolomite | Talk 19:32, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:N. 1,240 Google results. --Slgr@ndson (page - messages - contribs) 20:00, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. --CharlotteWebb 22:58, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Being a candidate is not notability in itself, and there is no notability from any other source. David | Talk 23:00, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep for having held elected office (even if it was on the local level). -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 16:09, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as per nom and deletion of other mere candidates and councillors. Timrollpickering 16:26, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep for having 43 unique hits on the Scotsman website; pretty good for a West Lothian councillor given the unremittingly parochial Edinburgh nature of the paper. Also 15 on the BBC, 6 on the Herald, and so on. WTF anyone would think that the Indie was likely to notice anything outwith Londonistan will forever be one of life's great mysteries. Angus McLellan (Talk) 20:25, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• keep please the person is notable within scottish politics Yuckfoo 18:24, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep who is Jermaine Dupri outside the USA? She is notable in her homeland and that is important. It is painfully obvious this vote was undertaken by an ignorant person here. 216.141.226.190 02:47, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per keep arugments. If she is notable in Scottish politics, who are we to define her notability here. And I love the statement right above 205.188.116.138 14:35, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.