Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andy Pressman

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete. Stifle 23:00, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Andy Pressman

Most of it's a hoax, and the rest is unsalvagable. Ral315 (talk) 21:01, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Could you please present some evidence of the falsity of the entry, as the man is my uncle and I can attest to most everything on the page. Your smugness offends decency. talentlesshack (talk) 21:14, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

You have just admitted this is a vanity page. Delete, because he is non-notable. Royboycrashfan 21:24, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Where in my last statement did I admit this is a vanity page RoyBoy? Mr. Pressman was a huge force in the design community in the 1970's and 1980's who fell out of favor after a severe break with reality. I think that is pretty fucking notable. The fact that I am a relative of the man proves nothing.talentlesshack (talk) 21:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

The only reason that I can see to keep this link around is its mention within google_bomb. I am going to check and see if that was just planted link.--68.226.22.177

• Delete Hoax. The onus is on you to provide sources; I am not obligated to provide negative proof. Google comes up with an architect and an actor. kotepho 22:05, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
• Comment Google bombing victim verified, rest is unverifiable through Lexis/Nexis.

Adam Mathes, a blogger and computer science major at Stanford, is generally credited with having coined the term "Google bombing" almost three years ago to describe the practice of manipulating Google results through seeding the Web with links. Mr. Mathes started a Google bomb as a joke at the expense of a friend and graphic artist, Andy Pressman, managing to get Mr. Pressman's blog listed as the first result for the phrase "talentless hack." New York Times, Jan 22, 2004, pg G2. Thatcher131 22:12, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, a mention on the googlebomb page is just fine. And some diffs: [1], [2], [3]. User:Talentlesshack notified of possible vandalism on talk page Deizio 22:22, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

• Keep User Kotepho has proven with his lexis/nexis search that Andy Pressman is clearly a graphic designer. It doesn't seem to me that User talentlesshack has purported anything else. As to the work on Michael Moriarty's Presidential run, it seems to me that this is inherently true solely based on the design example on the Andy Pressman Wikipedia page. This rush to judgement makes it all too difficult for new members to add pertinent and justified information to this encyclopedia. Give authors a reasonable amount of time to prove thier sources. RichieValentine

Welcome to Wikipedia! Congratulations on your FIRST EDIT!!! <fireworks> Deizio 00:06, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Wasn't me. At least, not this time. kotepho 00:03, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

T'was I, and I now say, delete. I also suggest there is something fishy in that the creator of the article, TalentlessHack (talk · contribs) is also the phrase that was linked to Pressman by the original google bomb. Thatcher131 02:13, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

• Keep I speedy deleted this last night when there was nothing but an illustration. He has written a book on design which has been reviewed. [4] There are also two Wikilinks one from Googlebomb. A search of verifiable sources comes up with articles such as a review of his book from the Architectural Record. He is notable enough for mine. Oops. DeleteCapitalistroadster 00:14, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
  • This article from Microcontent News confirms his role as the first person to be Googlebombed see [5]. Capitalistroadster 00:18, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Cappy, you've got 2 Andy Pressmans confused. The architect has written many books and appears to be notable as an author. The graphic designer (subject of this page) was the subject of the googlebomb and is otherwise nn. The only one of the 11 unique hits on google [6] for "andy pressman" +"graphic designer" with direct relevance to the subject is to his personal blog. The nominated page is otherwise a hoax (have you seen the page? the artwork?) and the author has not only included nonsense about the death of the pizza delivery guy here, he put it on Pizza delivery as well. He's been spreading other cruft as you'll see from the diffs above. On the Pizza deliver page, it says that Andy Pressman shot a pizza guy called Sanjay Maryani (he redlinked him for good measure) - guess how many googles for their combined names? [7] Kinu caught it and reverted. Deizio 00:55, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

I can also confirm that Andy Pressman the architect is not the same person as Andy Pressman, graphic designer. Thatcher131 02:14, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, hoax. Stifle 00:01, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, only verifiable and potentially encyclopedic notability is per the Google bombing affair; a one-line mention there is all that is warranted. --Kinu ^t/_c 00:23, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
  • The user also keeps adding a "political poster" (read: unsourceable, poor looking Photoshop job) to the Michael Moriarty article. Rather than engaging in a revert war, I'm bringing it to attention here, so that it can be dealt with properly. --Kinu ^t/_c 01:57, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

• I've already warned User:Talentlesshack about vandalism. Time for something stronger? Deizio 07:26, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

• Based on comments here and on Snakes on a Plane, it would also appear that User:RichieValentine is a sockpuppet of Talentlesshack. Deizio 07:32, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.