Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andre Chabot

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The result was No consensus. Maxim(talk) 23:33, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Andre Chabot

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Prodded a while back, prod removed, re-prodded recently. There seems to be a disagreement on notability, so I'm putting it here. Some sources are there too. Procedural nom. UsaSatsui 00:12, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete per WP:Notability (people). Not a notable local politician. --Djsasso 00:53, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep politician of a major city, has moderate coverage and has several sources which asserts notability.--JForget 01:57, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - local politicians can be notable per WP:BIO, provided they have received "significant press coverage", as this one has. Sarcasticidealist 22:09, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment Significant press coverage outside of their local area is what is needed. He has not had that. --Djsasso 22:16, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete not notably enough. GoodDay 22:29, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Notable enough for a local politician, as per WP:BIO. (Contrary to what Djsasso said above, there's nothing in there about press coverage "outside of their local area".) --The Invisible Hand 02:37, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment No it does not say that in there...what it does say is being a local politician does not automatically mean notability. All local politicians are going to have local press coverage, but this is international encyclopedia not a local one so they need more than just local coverage to meet notability. --Djsasso 04:53, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Not all local politicians are going to have significant press coverage, because not all localities have significant press coverage of their municipal governance systems (to take an example that is, for me, close to home, try to find significant press coverage - even significant local press coverage - of any municipal councillor in Sturgeon County, Alberta. Andre Chabot has received significant press coverage (yes, most of it local) and, according to WP:BIO, local politicians to have received significant press coverage are notable. The "rule" about said coverage needing to be non-local because this is an international encyclopedia is completely figmentary.
Why are Members of Parliament automatically notable? Well, because WP:BIO says so, but why does WP:BIO say so? Very few of them have received international coverage (and this is, after all, an international encyclopedia), and a good number have received only significant local coverage. But all of them have received significant coverage, and all of them are therefore entitled to be considered notable. The same is true of Andre Chabot. Sarcasticidealist 05:06, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. I agree with the above comment. This local politician has received substantial coverage to merit inclusion under notability guidelines. Being notable at a local level in an area that is rather well-known should be enough to merit an article in an international encyclopedia. --Nick—Contact/Contribs 06:19, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • delete I'm fairly flexible about local politicians, but I do not see anything the least important about this one. There are two elements of notability cited: he introduced a law for putting ashtrays at building entrances, and another against urinating in public. The coverage for those exists, but it certainly isnt substantial. DGG (talk) 16:42, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete not notable. IP198 22:16, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak delete this is so close to being notable, in my opinion. Unfortunatly, he's just not quite there. Possibly suitable in the future, but obviously, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 21:28, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
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