Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ana María Martínez

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep, only one delete vote and a ton of keep votes, and the delete vote was for an older version of the article. A consensus has obviously been reached by now. Non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps)))} 18:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ana María Martínez

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Unsourced stub about a non-notable opera singer. Eddie 19:48, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

• Delete: Fails WP:BIO, no independent secondary sources verify her notability. MastCell ^Talk 20:04, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
• Source and then speedy keep. Of course she's notable; she's singing Donna Elvira at Covent Garden this season. Blurb from her management agency. (Which of course can't be used directly, but will provide leads to real RS.) Article needs work, not deletion.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Bpmullins (talk • contribs)
  • Comment- If there's no media coverage, then it doesn't meet WP:MUSIC. Eddie 20:13, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment - I don't know about notability but here is a potential source. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 20:21, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Keep She's won a Grammy, clearly meeting WP:MUSIC. Wildthing61476 20:23, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment- The article says nothing about a Grammy. Eddie 20:29, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
    • Her site says she won a Latin Grammy Corpx 20:32, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
      • Comment - And if you want 3P, read my source. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 20:33, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
        • The source is not a reliable third party source, as IMG is the artist's manager (see here). Eddie 20:46, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
          • The Grammy award is easily sourced, she won the 2001 Latin Grammy for best Classical Album (per the Official Grammy Website). Wildthing61476 20:50, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

• Keep - Source properly. Then it will meet WP:MUSIC and WP:BIO. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 20:35, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Forgive my ignorance, is a Latin Grammy not considered a major award? Wildthing61476 20:36, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
    • I believe it is. Eddie 20:42, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
      • Comment - I believe it would be a major award, as well. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 20:44, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
        • Comment Piling on: yes, it is a major award. --Charlene 21:16, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, NPR source. Corvus cornix 21:09, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
  • I have expanded it some. Corvus cornix 21:36, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy keep, easily passes WP:RS and WP:N. She's won a Latin Grammy, which in itself is notable. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps)))} 21:58, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Based on the original article, I can see why the nomination was made. Corvus cornix 22:05, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

• Keep, obviously notable. 400+ Google News Archive results show how easily this article could be sourced. The stub was perfectly acceptable and the nominator should have exercised more diligence. Note: Unless MastCell changes vote, article appears ineligible for WP:SK. --Dhartung | Talk 22:21, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
  • I agree that the article is now acceptable, but I would like to know is why you think the three-sentence unreferenced stub was acceptable. Eddie 22:35, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
    • It made assertions of notability which were trivially verifiable. {{unreferenced}} solves the sort of problem you see, not AFD. --Dhartung | Talk 23:40, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Clearly notable. ¿SFGiДnts! ^{¿Complain! ¿Analyze! ¿Review!} 23:37, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
• Keep As mentioned clearly notable; winner of a Latin Grammy. Ozgod 05:18, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 15:38, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Puerto Rico-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 15:38, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.