Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/An outfit

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 12:58, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] An outfit

Article's creator keeps removing speedy tags, so I am bringing it here. First sentence gives very little clue as to what the article is about but I assume that {{nn-band}} applies. -- RHaworth 16:41, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

• Speedy delete per A7 (n-n band) Metros232 16:49, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
• Why don't you weirdos leave this article alone. Surely you have better things to do with your lives that try and delete other people's contributions. Just because we don't know anything about 'underground rivers of london' doesn't mean that we have nothing to contribute. GET A LIFE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.30.195.121 (talk • contribs)

Please check out wiki guidelines for writing articles, for instance WP:Vanity Tyrenius 18:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Comment Yeah, insult the board, that'll get your article kept. Danny Lilithborne 22:05, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

• Speedy delete A7 (nn). Tyrenius 18:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
• I think the problem with all you people who spend your lives editing other people's contribution is that you seem to think that this is YOUR web site. that YOU can decide what is on it and what's not. Might you ever spend some time out of your speed deleting addiction to realise that people in the 'london indie scene' may find information about this little known band and its members more interesting than some obscure 17th century french explorer who appears in length on this site. I am simply asking you to be a little more open minded and to realise that just because your itchy little fingers cannot keep off your mouse button, the success of this web site depends on freedom of information for those who want it not on the ideals of 'wikipedians'.

• Hi there. I'd like to point you to some reading: About Wikipedia, which should clear up the importance of the the 17th Century explorers (Who doesn't like New Orleans and Quebec?), and to the music guidelines for inclusion problems. Teke 23:22, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

And for your information, the author of this article is not in the band, doesn't not appear in any of the text and is not referred to in any way. Maybe you should review the definition of vanity.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.222.240.11 (talk • contribs)

But this is our website and we do decide what goes on it. -- RHaworth 19:05, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

(with apologies to the next author for interpolating) -- Ah, the famed Wiki-Cabal finally admits its existence. -- SockpuppetSamuelson 07:25, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes! OUR website. it doesn't depend on you, or the two other people who appear on this page. there are millions of wikipedia users. how do you know that the majority of them don't want this site? When you are running out of server space and need the 500kb that this article uses up let me know and i will be more than willing to give it up for a better cause. Until then...mind your own business.

• Speedy Delete per criterion A7. The article about this "little known band" provides no verifiable evidence of notability. Cheers! Docether 19:11, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Would you like to hear a song as proof? You must consider yourself the source of all music knoweledge if you can justifiably decide that this band doesn't exist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.222.240.11 (talk • contribs)

Whether or not the band exists is a nonissue. When judging music-related articles for inclusion in Wikipedia, notability is the currency of the realm ... and that's what we're failing to find. Proof of notability is the responsibility of the article's creator or editors. Perhaps instead of responding to every "delete" vote in this thread, you might take it upon yourself to furnish verifiable proof of the band's notability, and save the article from deletion. (Sadly, "would you like to hear a song" is not proof of notability -- see WP:NMG for examples of what -is-.) When creating other articles in the future, you might consider being proactive and including proof of notability as part of the article when you write it, thus avoiding this scenario altogether. Best, Docether 20:58, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Existence is not the same thing as notability. My left foot exists, but you won't find an article on it on Wikipedia because it just isn't important enough to warrant one. Same goes for this band. Reyk _YO! 20:50, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Your left foot may not have an article on Wikipedia, but mine does. Sorry, couldn't resist. ;) Docether 21:03, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

• That is interesting. You seem to think that people want to know that you are 23, like beer, science and good books? Surely your foot would be more interesting? I think the discrepancy between my ideas and your is that you seem to think that somehow an article which may not interest everybody is not worth placing on wikipedia. Why does this matter? It makes no different to anyone's surfing pleasure, doesn't offend anyone, and can by its existence only be beneficial. There are one and a half million articles on wikipedia. What's one more or less? I think that maybe you should all worry a little more about contributing information yourselves onto this site rather than imposing your non existent authority on others who are just trying to get in the spirit of things. You don't own wikipedia, you don't control wikipedia and you have no right to presume that your vote counts for the whole world.
• Speedy delete as per nom. Dlyons493 Talk 20:13, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy delete per nom. Also not verifiable. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 20:48, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy delete per nom. Reyk _YO! 20:50, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy delete with prejudice. Reasons are clear enough. Danny Lilithborne 22:05, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy delete per A7: Non notable band. I don't see any citations, references or external links. --Starionwolf 02:55, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy delete per nom. Tychocat 08:12, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.