Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ami Cusack (2nd nomination)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 19:35, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ami Cusack

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Survivor contestant with no real notability outside the show. She has posed for Playboy but nothing more (and I can't see that making her notable).

Article was nominated for deletion in March 06 and was kept but for reasons I'm not sure would stand up now.

The fact that she stood out on the show because she was a lesbian and was a "villain" still does not make her notable. -- PageantUpdater • talk | contribs | esperanza 06:22, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete. Non-notable. fraggle 16:32, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
  • keep How does being involved with both a major publication and national broadcast television make someone "Non-notable"? imdb profile shows multiple other involvements with broadcast television. Inappropriate nomination. i kan reed 17:13, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep. I'm not convinced of the notability. Being a contestant on Survivor is not sufficient but she does have some other claims to notability. --Yamla 21:30, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Delete. Thoroughly unnotable. Her only claim-to-fame is as a contestant on Survivor, and with the proliferation of reality television this will quickly get out of hand, if it indeed has not already. --DavidShankBone 21:34, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
I also think that only the top two contestants on a reality television show (barring other notoriety) should receive articles. --DavidShankBone 21:37, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Aside from being a Venus Swimwear model, Survivor Contestant and Playboy model, Ami was also once the girlfiend of/engaged to well-known author and supplement mogul Bill Phillips[1]. of Body for Life[2] (who dedicated the book to her - among others[3]). She was also Charitable Director of EAS from 1996-1998. She played a prominant role in the film Body of Work.[4] and was extensively featured in numerous issues of Muscle Media (Muscle Media 2000) in the mid-late 1990s.[5]. She's notable more in the bodybuilding/fitness industry - similarly to former beauty pageant contestant Carol Grow Yankees76 18:54, 23 February 2007 (UTC)Yankees76 22:01, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per WP:N, as it seems straightforward, that there is substantial coverage of this person, from multiple sources (a hit international show). The article needs to be improved to cite all those sources, but that calls for fix-up, not deletion. Also, the logic that the first AFD-keep doesn't apply, isn't explained. Notability never goes away. --Rob 01:45, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Ami Cusack was one of the best players in Vanuatu and arguably to ever play the game. If this page had clean up it would be a more substnatial article --Flowerkiller1692 21:10, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom, since game show losers are not inherently notable. Edison 06:25, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep. Being a contestant on Survivor is not sufficient, nor is her association with whoever. Admittedly, she's not centerfold, however what tips the balance for me is that all this most probably considerably increased the commercial value of photos Playboy had in its archives. Ohconfucius 03:57, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep - The combination of her modeling career and being a contestant on survivor is enough to make her semi-notable. (Third3rdIII 01:33, 23 February 2007 (UTC))
  • Delete - Lots of models out there with reality TV appearances, not notable. mceder (u t c) 07:11, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
    • Looking over W:N, I don't see where "lots" is a disqualifier. There are "lots" of things in Wikipedia widely accepted as worthy of inclusion. Would you like to make that "few"? --Rob 09:49, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
      • I am sure I had a point when typing that remark. I am of the opinion that every Survivor contestant is not notable enough for an article. I think the combo of being on Survivor and having posed in Playboy still is not enough to be notable for an article. I would like to see it deleted. mceder (u t c) 15:51, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.