Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/American Association of Drugless Practitioners

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete I'm sorry, but I'm not seeing the press coverage that was claimed but never shown. Normally a closer doesn't search, but normally people provide evidence rather than just vague claims of it. On a News search, I get one result and it's a simple mention that isn't very informative. On a regular google search, everything seems to be various random webpages either of credential check sites or other schools / practitioners. Gillian McKeith cites at least 2 articles from newspapers... this article cites nothing, none of the "news coverage" of McKeith mentions this group, let alone gives useful information on it. If anyone wants to present a reliable source on this topic, I'll undelete. W.marsh 15:52, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] American Association of Drugless Practitioners

Unnotable accreditation mill with no recognition or connection to any respected academic group. Arbusto 05:51, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. JoshuaZ 07:16, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per above. --Kf4bdy ^{talk contribs} 08:03, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete unless we can source its being an accreditation mill. Again, appears to be ignored by the wider community, so that's likely to be impossible. Guy 09:29, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Keep This group does not seem to be primarily an accreditation mill; it also certifies practitioners, and claims to function as a referral service, etc. It may be scam-like, but it appears markedly more notable than the entry above; for instance, it gets more than 39K Google hits, 713 unique - most of them schools and practitioners mentioning their certification. --Brianyoumans 10:28, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep many press mentions per comments from Brianyoumans. Was in the news as part of the Gillian McKeith education scandal. Obviously important to document these groups given the number of schools who cite them as accreditors. Finally, should be kept per the list guidelines, which mandate articles for list components and this is included in our List of unrecognized accreditation associations of higher learning. --JJay 23:09, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
  • 1) You listed NO sources for that claim. Perhaps if it is so important it should be included to prove notablity? 2) Just because its on a list does not mean an automatic keep (as you have been told before.) 3) 713 unique google hits is not very many. 4) What are some of these "schools" its connected too? Arbusto 23:33, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
• Not sure what claim you are objecting to. Check the coverage on McKeith. This was major news in the UK. Otherwise, besides the list guidelines, I think we should be documenting all unrecognized accreditors, for the simple reason that people constantly claim bogus degrees from these groups. Merely listing them does not provide enough information for our readers. --JJay 23:38, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

"Check the coverage on McKeith." As for now you haven't supplied anything to prove notability for this group. Does it even still exist as a group or is it just a internet front? WP:CORP states we need several non-trival sources. Arbusto 22:55, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

• Weak Keep — They do seem to be a real organisation, offering accreditation services, though the article desperately needs cleanup to include sources and statements of notability. Should these not be provided, it's a non-notable organisation Martinp23 00:01, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.