Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Altar candle

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. KrakatoaKatie 19:50, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Altar candle

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No evidence that article is notable. Author appears to have created this to push his Roman Catholic religion. Manofsteel2566 17:10, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

  • KEEP Since the Roman Catholic church is hardly obscure, objects used in its rites would be notable. Article is good basic start, with citations in place and has multiple editors contributing to it, so its not specifically a one author viewpoint. There is no language present that would indicate it is trying to push a religion and I question the reasoning given on that basis. Wildhartlivie 18:33, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep inclined to keep however it would not be a great deal if it was deleted as much of the material is covered in the Catholic section of Ceremonial use of lights. KTo288 20:29, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep Could use cleanup for worldview/npov, and obviously could use additional sources, but Votive candle and Memorial service (Orthodox), among other articles, imply that that shouldn't be hard to accomplish. MrZaiustalk 21:02, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete this article, which where it is not WP:OR is dealt with elsewhere as KTo288 above or in candle. Adds nothing encyclopaedic to Wikipedia. If it is kept rename to "Altar Candle (Roman Catholic Usage) or similar, prune the WP:OR and hope for a lot more sourced material. Springnuts 21:55, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep It does have a good RC beginning, the second section for uses in other religions could easily be expanded, as each of the different Rites in the Catholic church have somewhat different uses, and there are many protestant churches that have varied uses as well. Incompleteness in these areas shouldn't be a reason for deletion. SkierRMH 23:44, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
  • The terminology "altar" is rejected by most protestant churches, and is far from universally accepted within Anglicanism. It's not that they use "Altar Candles" differently - they don't have an "Altar" to use them on! That's why I think the article as written is beyond saving - but as above there is possibly a (different) article to be written. Springnuts 13:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
The term "altar" has been used in all protestant churches I have attended. Edison 22:09, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Different churches my friend - see [[1]]. Springnuts 07:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, but needs more information on other churches' use or non-use. Bearian'sBooties 01:26, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
  • As above on other churches. Springnuts 13:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep and expand. Many (most?) cultures have altars and candles are an integral part in many of them, article needs to improve worldview on subject. Benjiboi 02:01, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - even if you dont go to a RC church, you would still recognise the term. As for 'Other churches' argument, they deserve 'other articles' ... and linked in their 'See also' sections. If at some point a Merge is suggested, bring that up on the relevent Talk pages. Exit2DOS2000•T•C• 05:28, 31 October 2007 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.